Posted on 12/29/2019 2:14:17 AM PST by Libloather
Oral arguments in the DC Court of Appeals for the House Judiciary Committee to obtain Mueller’s grand jury information, are scheduled for January 3rd, 2020. The HJC is leveraging the Senate impeachment trial in their arguments to gain access to the Mueller material. This approach is by design.
With that in mind it seems likely any House impeachment articles will not be delivered to the Senate until after the DC court arguments, and likely not before the ruling:
In addition to the Mueller evidence, the HJC is seeking judicial enforcement authority to force the testimony of former White House counsel Don McGahn. Both HJC appeals court arguments are using the Senate trial to bolster their case.
The rushed House articles were/are a means to an end. That is – a way for House lawyers to argue in court all of the constitutionally contended material is required as evidence for pending judicial proceedings, a trial in the Senate.
This would explain why all the prior evidence debated for inclusion and legal additions to “articles of impeachment” were dropped. Instead the House focused only on quickly framing two articles that could facilitate two pending court cases.
As interested observers will note the House never voted to authorize the full judicial impeachment process; instead they voted to approve an inquiry into whether an impeachment should take place. By not voting to authorize articles of impeachment the House never gained ‘judicial enforcement authority‘.
What the house crew have assembled is an interesting back-door attempt to position a valid claim for evidence against the accused without having first gained judicial authority for it.
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Just horrifying.
The coup will last Trump’s whole first term.
And second unless we win the house.
one dem already basically said there will be more impeachments.
They ain’t got much to work with, many of them are facing serious prison time, or the traitor’s noose.
Impeachment or assassination are viewed as their only hopes.
Should they choose the latter, many, many of them won’t survive the week, and from there it gets very messy.
Pray for Trump, pray for the USSS, pray HARD!
Stand back away from the landscape and ask yourself....if the phonecall to the Ukraine had not occurred...would any of this impeachment stuff have started there in September? They had marginal material at that point, and I think their real intention was to go after the tax returns by the end of 2019, do the hearings in the first quarter of 2020, and the Senate would have gotten the articles in April timeframe (more so on tax corruption or misleading numbers).
Trump, I think, interrupted the strategy and actually speeded-up the process/timing. He even ensured that the whistle-blower and his Army officer co-worker...were in the scene and knew that they’d run quickly to trigger some internal investigation.
The trouble now, Pelosi is stuck with a unwinnable impeachment process, and it’s apparent that the public hasn’t bought into much of anything related to impeachment. The expected TV audience numbers? They aren’t there. The polling to show Trump-voters dumping their guy? I think in the 30 states that Trump won in 2016...he hasn’t lost more than a quarter-percent of those state voters (really a telling part of the dynamics in play). Toss in around 2-million black voters around the country who voted for Hillary in 2016, and will be likely voting for Trump in 2020...the landscape is ‘Trump-red’ across the nation.
Adding to this now....if you go into a Senate Impeachment hearing....Joe Biden’s lack of ethical standards is on display and he’s finished as a candidate before the Iowa caucus period. Just having Joe suggest he won’t comply with a subpoena now....destroyed a bit of respect over the guy.
Pelosi is standing there now with a poker hand that has no value, and lost much of her betting money for the evening.
They will make it another “psychopath” like the one that shot Reagan.
The conspiracy theory was that Bush was behind it..
Maybe an insane conspiracy theory.
I never know what to think anymore.
But if it is a “psycho” too many will fall for it.
Let’s PRAY we don’t have to deal with that EVER!
As interested observers will note the House never voted to authorize the full judicial impeachment process; instead they voted to approve an inquiry into whether an impeachment should take place. By not voting to authorize articles of impeachment the House never gained ‘judicial enforcement authority‘.
What the house crew have assembled is an interesting back-door attempt to position a valid claim for evidence against the accused without having first gained judicial authority for it. The HJC is now arguing to appeals courts, and likely to SCOTUS, the blocked evidentiary material is critical evidence in a soon-to-be-held Senate trial.
The House Judiciary Committee (HJC) led by Chairman Jerry Nadler has been seeking: (1) Mueller grand jury material; (2) a deposition by former White House counsel Don McGahn; and less importantly (3) Trump financial and tax records. Each of these issues is currently being argued. [The supreme court will hear financials/taxes in April].
House counsel Doug Letter responded to the DC Appeals Court arguing the forced testimony of White House counsel Don McGahn is needed for evidence in the impeachment trial. [Court pdf Avail Here] And the grand jury material is needed to highlight the second article, Obstruction of Congress [Court pdf Avail Here]
Looking at the legal maneuvers from that perspective means the grand jury material is the unspoken goal and impeachment is simply the enhanced means to obtain it.
The 6(e) material relates to evidence gathered by the Mueller team for grand jury proceedings in their two-year effort to construct a case against President Trump.
Remember, the Mueller evidence was gathered during a counterintelligence investigation, which means all things Trump -including his family and business interests- were subject to unbridled surveillance for two years; and a host of intelligence gathering going back in time indefinitely. A goldmine of political opposition research.
Obviously if Jerry Nadler could get his hands on this material it would quickly find its way into the DNC, and ultimately to the 2020 democrat candidate for president. This material would also be fuel for a year of leaks to DC media who could exploit rumor, supposition, and drops of information that Andrew Weissmann and team left to be discovered.
The oral arguments are next Friday, January 3rd, 2020.
Full HJC Brief Here
By now, I suppose most people know who Weissmann is. I don't know if everyone really understands how unethical, immoral, and evil he is.
Weissmann obtained access to the illegal, raw, spying intel on Trump, his children, his lawyers, his associates, and everyone else. But, Weissmann could not use that in his "report" (Weissmann wrote it, not Mueller). In fact, it was really the Weissmann investigation all along, Mueller was the false façade.
Weissmann has been the Soros/Globalist/Democrat henchman for years. He went after Enron. Even today, people believe Enron was the most evil corporation that ever existed on planet earth. While illegal activities did take place, they were in fact no different from any other company. Google alone is 10,000 times worst than Enron ever was.
Twenty years ago, Enron was on the ground floor and involved in several ventures that the Deep State and others wanted them out of. Broadband internet, video/media streaming, and energy services. This was a threat to certain people who wanted these very profitable things all for themselves. The order came to take Enron out. Our corrupt DOJ, with Weissmann at the helm, dutifully did so.
Weissmann was so corrupt that he was forced to leave the very Enron task force he founded. He was also reversed 9-0 by the Supreme Court in the Arthur Anderson case (related to Enron), but not after Weissman destroyed over 30,000 jobs.
Weissmann has a long record of throwing innocent people into maximum security and solitary confinement unless they agree to lie for him in court. Next, he goes after your wife, your children, and your friends. He doesn't care. He is completely amoral.
Weissmann left a "trail" for Schiff, Nadler, Pelosi, Schumer, and all the rest.
The Demoncrats now want to use impeachment as a method to get all of that "evidence" that was illegally obtained by spying and surveillance on the President and his family.
I don't believe the President committed any crimes. But the Dems know they can manipulate the spying material in anyway they want. The media are 100% them, and we have a two-tier "justice" system, for which they take full advantage.
There is only ONE way to stop this madness.
Round them all up.
Barr seems to be waiting for legal Nirvana before he acts. He already has stated Durham won't do anything until "Spring." Maybe even later?
God save our Republic. Pray for the President.
I'm not worried about them.
That was a far more trusting time. Nearly everyone accepted uncritically what the government and the FBI said at face value.
Those days are long gone, given how blatant the lies and coverups and *cough* Epstein *cough* murders have become, there is a large number of armed citizens who just might snap and take out the trash our "betters" have been protecting or have themselves become.
They have sown the seeds of distrust, they will reap the whirlwind of the rage of the betrayed.
There only hope of surviving at that point is to disarm us all.
Virginia is the test case, and the political rhetoric includes threats of nuclear annihilation of anyone who dares keep their arms!
“So basically Swalwell wants a war. Because that’s what you would get,” airborne veteran and gun pundit Joe Biggs commented on Twitter – to which Swalwell replied that the government would win such a war, because it has atomic weapons.They are playing for keeps, as in to keep their necks out of the nooses, and their butts out of Supermax.“And it would be a short war my friend. The government has nukes. Too many of them. But they’re legit,” the congressman wrote.
And they don't care who gets hurt or what gets destroyed in the process.
Oh boy.
Laz was right. I better lose some weight in case we need to act.
I hope not.
I’m 51 and out of shape.
WE WON. We should be sitting easy.
But life’s not fair.
I’m in shape. Round is a shape. Indeed the Greeks thought the sphere was the perfect shape...
Democrat rat bastard lawyers doing what they always do....
ITS SHOWTIME .....all the prior evidence debated for inclusion and legal additions to “articles of impeachment” were dropped. Instead the House focused only on quickly framing two articles that could facilitate pending court cases. Remember, the House never voted to "authorize the full judicial impeachment process;" they voted to approve an "inquiry" into whether an impeachment should take place.
MARK THIS WELL By not voting to authorize articles of impeachment the House never gained ‘judicial enforcement authority‘. The house wrecking crew have assembled a back-door attempt to position a valid claim for evidence against the accused without having first gained judicial authority for it.
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ITS SHOWTIME .....all the prior evidence debated for inclusion and legal additions to “articles of impeachment” were dropped. Instead the House focused only on quickly framing two articles that could facilitate pending court cases. Remember, the House never voted to "authorize the full judicial impeachment process;" they voted to approve an "inquiry" into whether an impeachment should take place.
MARK THIS WELL By not voting to authorize articles of impeachment the House never gained ‘judicial enforcement authority‘. The house wrecking crew have assembled a back-door attempt to position a valid claim for evidence against the accused without having first gained judicial authority for it.
========================================
ACTION NOW
Judicial Watch
425 3rd Street, SW, Suite 800
Washington, DC 20024
TELE 1-888-593-8442 between 8:30am and 5:30pm EST.
Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice How to file a complaint: https://www.justice.gov/crt/how-file-complaint
Call President Trump: Comments: 202-456-1111 Switchboard: 202-456-1414
WH EMAIL CONTACT PAGE https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/
US CONGRESS SWITCHBOARD: (202) 224-3121
U.S. Department of Justice
Comment Line: 202-353-1555
Switchboard: 202-514-2000
FBI tip line web site----https://www.fbi.gov/tips
FBI electronic fraud unit----www.fbi.gov/scams-and-safety/common-fraud-schemes/internet-fraud
FBI Major Case Contact Center: 1-800-CALL-FBI (225-5324) crimes: EMAIL enforcement@SEC.gov
If the Senate wants the Articles, they are in the Congressional Record. McConnell can do an end run around Nancy by using the Congressional Record as transmittal. Accomplishes two things: robs Nancy of any perceived advantage and Articles are deemed to be transmitted. Trial and acquittal follow. Done by noon. On to real business.
The rats, as usual, soil that which they control. The impeachment threshold has been reduced to what our Framers feared: a President that serves at the political pleasure of Congress.
With that in mind, federal courts should declare the matter entirely political, and then butt out. Don’t join a thoroughly corrupted process to remove a President.
Scotus-derived non-justiciable political question standards:
• A textually demonstrable constitutional commitment of the issue to a coordinate political department (meaning that the U.S. Constitution requires another branch of government to resolve questions regarding the issue);
• A lack of judicially discoverable and manageable standards for resolving it;
• An impossibility of deciding [a matter] without an initial policy determination of a kind clearly for nonjudicial discretion;
• An impossibility of a court’s undertaking independent resolution without expressing lack of the respect due coordinate branches of government;
• An unusual need for unquestioning adherence to a political decision already made.
Expect dismissal or acquittal Jan. 4-5.
After this, ANYTHING the House sends will just be dismissed out of hand.
My sense is that as Swampy as the Senate is, they are seeing the House as a bunch of petulant little children getting in the way of the gravy train.
Expect dismissal or acquittal Jan. 4-5.
After this, ANYTHING the House sends will just be dismissed out of hand.
My sense is that as Swampy as the Senate is, they are seeing the House as a bunch of petulant little children getting in the way of the gravy train.
That was an excellent summary of events! Thank you!
Trump. 2020. Landslide, Baby! MAGA! KAG! :)
It is even worse than that. Everyone knows that Clinton and the DNC paid for the Dossier to do Op research. What is not being reported is that the FBI was able to get a blueprint for the Trump campaign because they wiretapped several individuals in the campaign. Talking about having an electoral advantage! So they effectively used the FBI to not only dig up dirt, but to help design a strategy to beat Trump by knowing all of his strategies. And we don’t think that they are doing exactly the same thing now, for 2020?
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