Posted on 12/27/2019 2:10:37 PM PST by Mariner
A Chinese admiral and pundit told a trade-show audience that Beijing could resolve China's territorial disputes by sinking two U.S. Navy aircraft carriers and killing thousands of American sailors.
Rear Adm. Lou Yuan's threat isn't an empty one. The Chinese military has deployed an array of weaponry that it acquired specifically to target American flattops.
But a U.S. Navy test in 2005 proved that even if you hit them, carriers are really hard to sink.
Lou made his provocative comment on Dec. 20, 2018 at the Military Industry List summit, according to media reports.
“What the United States fears the most is taking casualties,” declared Lou, an anti-American author, social commentator and military theorist at the PLA Academy of Military Science...
..."The ship was pummeled by explosions both above and below the waterline," The War Zone reporter Tyler Rogoway explained in 2018. "After nearly four weeks of these activities, the carrier was scuttled. On May 14, 2005, the vessel's stern disappeared below the waterline and the ship began its voyage to the seafloor."
"America stood up to four weeks of abuse and only succumbed to the sea after demolition teams scuttled the ship on purpose once and for all, it's clear that America was built to sustain heavy damage in combat and still stay afloat."
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalinterest.org ...
The *first* thing that would happen would be a Rods-from-God attack on the Three Gorges Dam.
USA punches back... HARD
If the Three Gorges Dam is completely collapsed, more than 10 billion cubic meters of reservoir water will be released in a short time, and the coast between the dam site and Shashi City will be directly impacted by flood waves, resulting in serious disaster.
That’s 2,641,720,523,581 US Gallons of water.
Even John McCain couldn’t sink the Forestal.
Verses the Japanese carriers during the Battle of Midway; they went down like right now. Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w30FkSXyTE
>>USA punches back... HARD<<
If we have a Republican POTUS. If it is a democrat the response will be “what did we do wrong and how can we not do it anymore? We’re SORRY we pissed you off so much!”
My mistake, although it was a good new film the one I had in mind was this one:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd8_vO5zrjo
I can attest to the difficulty in sinking even smaller destroyer/cruiser sized ships. Part of the difficulty lies in the preparation. Unlike scuttling, where holes are cut in the hull and water tight boundaries remain, during a “sinkex”, flooding boundaries, sometimes even “zebra” are set, all flammable and explosive material is removed. One time, while conducting a sinkex on an old Forrest Sherman class destroyer, the ship took several Harpoons, several Mavericks, numerous 500 lb bombs, and finally over 100 rounds of 5” before she broke in half and sank. I can only imagine what it would take to sink a newer Nimitz or Ford class super carrier.
As far as the “no explosive or flammable materials onboard”, there are also no damage control teams to erect shoring and stop flooding. There are no offensive or defensive weapons or countermeasures to counter attacking enemy aircraft, missiles, surface ships, etc. There are no ships in company to defend her, no friendly aircraft, no friendly subs. The ship is alone, unable to maneuver, unable to defend herself or fight back.
they’ve upped their game naming an oiler after harvey milk...
“Afloat” doesn’t mean capable of doing anything but float.
No carrier operations, it is only good for keeping the sailors out of the water.
The Japanese gave very little thought to damage control because it was contrary to their warrior ethic. Consequently their sailors ended up dying and drowning for their country and countless costly and the Imperial Japanese Navy remains on review for anyone with a deep submersible.
The US thought more about preventing casualties and more about saving their ships.
And in the end the US won.
The U.S.S Prinz Eugen (formerly of the German navy, survival of the Bismark action and almost every other German navy action in WWII) cruised to Bikini and was nuked. The film with all the ships in the lagoon...it was one. Prinz Eugen survived the nuke. They nuked it again. It survived again.
After that, it was towed towards Seattle, where it was going to be broken up, but, it finally started to sink (no one manning the pumps). They got it to Kwajulein. It turned turtle and sank in the lagoon there, and, is still there.
Hope to sail the boat there one day to sea it.
It would have to be a very close hit for a nuke to totally knock out a carrier.
Beijing could solve China’s existence by sinking two US Navy aircraft carriers.
Cruise missiles are far to slow to get past an Aircraft Carriers multiple levels of defense.
Besides China’s first shot on our Carrier would be it’s last. They haven’t one chance in 10 million in prevailing in a war against us, in fact no nation today and no combination of Nations have a chance in hell of avoiding annihilation should they decide to launch.
If that Colonel was at Hardin Simmons in Abilene in the early 70’s, it was my father. He started his army career leading a rifle platoon in Korea.
Yeah, I was just thinking to myself: This mofo better be buried deep deep in a bunker cause the attack on a US carrier, let alone sinking one, is going to lead to hellfire nuclear war in most cases......
The ChiComs, or whomever launched a nuke at one of our carriers, before their nuke struck, we would have sigint and comit intel telling where their nuclear weapons came from.
Then, we would have their order of battle telling us, who fired the weapon, who ordered it to be ready to fired, and the firing order. Also, what these bastards had for breakfast and where.
Those bastards, their commanders, command sites,families and home cities would be targeted before their weapons got through to our carrier.
If they did get through, American Boomers under water and in seas around the world would have all of these ChiCom targets loaded into their ICBM guidance systems. Then, they would await launch codes from President Trump.
After the receipt of codes our retaliatory ICBMs would be ready to be launched and headed to their targets.
After that President Trump would give the ChiCom command 5 minutes to surrender before they and their family became dead and radio active.
You can't be serious.
Killing millions of innocent civilians in response to a (successful) attack on a military target in the open ocean, with zero collateral damage, is unthinkable.
Message for Rear Admiral Lou Yuan:
Everyone has plan until they get punched in the mouth.
—Mike Tyson
The PLAN’s “carrier-killer” missile is a technological bluff. Couldn’t hit a moving target 300+ miles out. Plus launching a ballistic missile of any type at a formation of US Navy ships is strategically a very bad idea. The missile will be assumed to be nuke requiring several of our to be fired in return.
After being twice nuked its fortunate that the Prinz Eugen didn’t make it to be broken. Seattle wasn’t ready for second hand nuking.
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