MEET THE PRESS Corbyn's UK defeat was bad news for Sanders, Warren and America's left

NBC News ^ | By Chuck Todd, Mark Murray and Carrie Dann | Dec. 13, 2019, 9:04 AM EST

[conservative98]

WASHINGTON — Always beware of drawing conclusions from one country’s election to another.

But it’s also hard to ignore that the results in Britain last night were bad news for Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and America’s left — just 52 days before the Iowa caucuses.

On Thursday, unpopular Prime Minister Boris Johnson and his Conservative Party trounced even more unpopular socialist Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party, with Labour having its worst general-election performance in three decades.

Make no mistake: Neither Sanders nor Warren are as unpopular as Corbyn is in his country; in fact, Sanders and Warren have similar favorable and unfavorable ratings to Joe Biden’s.

And there’s no doubt that Corbyn’s muddled message on Brexit hurt his party.

But beyond unpopularity and Brexit, last night’s election showed the limits of campaigning and winning on ideology. A socialist or very left-leaning message — inspired to turn out young voters and unite the working class — simply didn’t work.

It also showed what happens to a party when it becomes primarily an urban party.

“The tide has gone so far out for Labour that it is now predominantly a party of the English cities and their commuter suburbs. Seat after seat in its traditional strongholds across central and northern England and north Wales fell to the Conservatives,” Helen Lewis writes in The Atlantic.

And it shows the limits of the Twitter Left.

As NBC’s Keir Simmons noted on “Today,” this morning, the Twitter Left in Britain thought it was building momentum and winning the argument.

“One commentator today, perhaps with a lesson for America again, saying: ‘Never believe that Twitter reflects the country,’” Simmons said.

[conservative98]

[dp0622]

I guess the MASSIVE youth movement the news and left were waiting for was taken in the bathrooms.

Some gutter humor there :)

[CatOwner]

It is absolutely imperative that the Senate votes to convict Trump. To do so, they’re going to need a *lot* more money from Soros to be redirected into the pockets of several GOP Senators. I have a greater confidence of the House GOP to hold firm that I do the good-ole-boy GOP in the Senate.

[GOPJ]

Sometimes... we watch liberal ‘news shows’ to shore up our hatred of white liberal ‘elites’...

in case our hate’s waning...

[Lurkinanloomin]

Make no mistake: Neither Sanders nor Warren are as unpopular as Corbyn is in his country
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Want to bet?

Pure propaganda, Crazy Bernie and Lieawatha are LESS popular than Jeremy Corbin.

[goldstategop]

Music to my ears. Democrats and their captive media live in an alternative universe.

They’ll face a rude awakening next November.

[tennmountainman]

It takes 3 NBC morons to write one article?

[montag813]

I wish this had happened AFTER the 2020 elections, so the U.S. left would not have learned.

[conservative98]

Yes, have some.

[RightGeek]

Chuck Todd looks like the private parts of farm animals

[chuckee]

“It takes 3 NBC morons to write one article?”

With the caliber of “journalists” at NBC I am surprised it only took three

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks conservative98. The spin is strong in this one... N(o)B(rains)C(ollectively) is just a big media buttplug of partisan shills.

On Thursday, unpopular Prime Minister Boris Johnson and his Conservative Party trounced even more unpopular socialist Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party, with Labour having its worst general-election performance in three decades.

Oh, and since Britain's leftist Twitter trolls thought they were swinging the vote, that means Twiiter doesn't matter in the US (and who is the best known Twitter user?). The spin never stops.

[GOPJ]

“The tide has gone so far out for Labour that it is now predominantly a party of the English cities and their commuter suburbs. Seat after seat in its traditional strongholds across central and northern England and north Wales fell to the Conservatives,” Helen Lewis writes in The Atlantic. And it shows the limits of the Twitter Left.

We've always been able to count on these people being out of touch with their heads up with asses. That's helped our side... they've fought caricatures of us - straw men - based on an hour watching us in a focus group. But the above Chuck Todd piece shows there's a glimmer of awareness happening on that side... It showed up on MSNBC this morning with Chris Matthews speaking truth to brain-dead Andrea Mitchell. We need to be careful - them might not be as stupid as we think.

[ifinnegan]

Lol.

These people at NBC are idiots.

[billyboy15]

“On Thursday, unpopular Prime Minister Boris Johnson..”

Funny considering the landslide victory but then politics has always been about the voters choosing the least worst of the choices.

[The Pack Knight]

Always beware of drawing conclusions from one country’s election to another.

Indeed, but I think the conclusion in the headline is a valid one. American conservatism doesn't really have much in common with British conservatism (remember that Boris Johnson endorsed Obama in 2008), but the British and American Left are part of the same disease.

[goldstategop]

Is that you, Chuck? Did he actually write it or was it ghost-written for him?

[conservative98]

(remember that Boris Johnson endorsed Obama in 2008)

basically for color of his skin and how it would make blacks feel...didn’t say anything content, character wise...

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2008/aug/01/boris.barackobama

[billyboy15]

Yes it takes 3 liberals to write a piece like this.

It is written in tandem. By that I mean one starts the article and when they collapse in grief over having to report on the subject of the devastating loss the second writer takes over and when they are themselves overcome with grief...well, you get it.