Posted on 12/09/2019 10:41:50 AM PST by janetjanet998
U.S. attorney John Durham issues a response to the DOJ IG report, saying his office does "not agree with some of the reports conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened.
And there it is. Bye bye DOJ IG, hello US Attorney John Durham.
#SpyGate.
It’s on!
Sen.Grassley of Iowa tried to stop Obamas firing of IGs, but Sen. McConnell wanted to be bipartisan.
The Deep State is a well oiled machine.
I don’t think the (R)’s had enough votes at that time to stop much of anything Obama and Harry Roid wanted to do
This is like someone dropping a pebble in the ocean thinking it will cause a tidal wave.
Sorry, but my give a shitter has been broke for a while.
It just suggests that the DOJ did a good job covering their tracks - some of which we already knew. For example the DNC hiring a law firm to hire Fusion GPS which hired DOJ honcho’s wife which hired British agent Steele to dig up Russian dirt on Trump to pass them back through DOJ honcho via his wife. Multiple arms length deniability. We’ll see what comes of Durham.
Seems to me Barr’s statement is more ominous for the conspirators. He flat disagreed that the investigation was adequately predicated. From all I know, I agree. From the IG’s perspective the internal DOJ paperwork was “flawed” but not “biased”. From my perspective they knew exactly what they were doing and it was a seditious criminal conspiracy. They knew Carter Page was an FBI informant who helped capture Russian spies and failed to reveal that to the FISA court; instead they actually reversed it and implied he was a Russian asset - a claim for which they had no evidence. They knew the Steele Dossier was a fabrication. They knew of its political origin. They knew of Steele’s biases. They were warned by the MI6 to be weary of him. They knew several pieces of the information in the Dossier were false (one in particular, the Trump-Russia Bank Computer connection was a tip they had previously received and investigated) while others were just old rumors you could find on the internet. When these knowingly false and repeated claims materialized again in the Steele dossier, without verification of any kind, they had every reason to be extra-suspicious of its validity. But instead they ran with it. That part alone is misconduct of the highest order but it is still far worse than that.
They claim they had to “fire Steele” for his bias and leaking and then he was conveniently re-hired by Fusion GPS, and then they accepted his “dossier”. You know what this looks like is exactly what happened. They planned this whole thing out. They used fudge words about Carter Page’s mere association with Russians to make him look guilty of conspiring with them. They moved Steele from the FBI payroll to the DNC payroll (via Fusion via Perkins Coie law firm). This was all to give the appearance of plausible deniability. There was even a 2nd Dossier floating around coming from the Sydney Blumenthal camp. I’d wager that Steele never had a single “Russian” source for anything in his dossier. I’d wager he just wrote what he was told to write and that he was hired simply to put his name on the documents to give them the air of intelligence gathering.
And we know of course that the only reason they targeted Page was because that gave them the ability to wiretap everyone 2 degrees removed from Page. Page emails Manafort, Manafort CC’s Trump, and voila they can tap Trump. We know this because it seems NSA Director Rogers told Trump and was going to tell the FISA Court itself before the FBI amended one of its Warrant applications.
Trump did goad them with his campaign rhetoric but Trump was being mostly sarcastic while the DNC was being worse than negligent in blaming Russia for hacks that were probably leaks and for Podesta’s own stupidity in opening malware on his computer. None of Trump’s rhetoric excuses their actions in the slightest. I hope we can really get to the bottom of all this.
I know that those people were not required to cooperate because they no longer work at the DOJ, but I don’t know to what degree some of them may have done so voluntarily. Further, theoretically the IG would have access to their work product during their employment.
Triple Secret Probation?
“This is more like a tree falling in a forest and nobody hearing it.”
Incorrect, the trees continue crashing. You should look at this closer and and actually read the report.
From what I see, the DOJ IG admits it was limited. AG Barr and US Attorney John Durham say they are not and there’s big problems here.
Everyone can see that for what it is.
kcuF them....
Roger Whittiker used to sing this lovely song: Durham Town
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA-jxl4ZGrM
Its a town the Dems all want to leave. No chance.
So what is he going to do about it?
Has anyone seen a statement from FIB Director Wray?
Horowitz - every time
Has anyone seen a statement from FIB Director Wray?
and he told ABC news Trump was not treated unfairly
Durham is (supposedly) running the criminal investigation. So his comments as a prosecutor would need to be especially reserved.
Read Barr’s comments - Barr is the political appointee and has more latitude in what he can say. And this is the money quote, per the NYT: “The inspector generals report now makes clear that the F.B.I. launched an intrusive investigation of a U.S. presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions that, in my view, were insufficient to justify the steps take.
IMO, he stops just short of calling them seditious criminal outlaws. If we take everything at face value, if the Justice System were Right and True, it should come down to whether Durham can get the evidence to prove a criminal conspiracy. I know many are skeptical of everyone’s motives. And I know the swamp waters run deep, splashing around too much is going to get mud on allies and enemies alike. I have my opinions on what happened, but try to be reserved about predicting how things will shake out - so we’ll see.
While I agree with you, sometimes when dealing with these dark arts types what it appears to be isn’t at all what it really is.
“Durham is based in Connecticut. I believe the grand jury is there.”
That was one of the causes for optimism over Huber - a Utah jury.
Ideally, a task force of US Attorneys would be conducting simultaneous trials next year in Connecticut, Utah, DC, New York, Arkansas, and a few other places.
That would be epic, but it is just my wishful thinking.
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