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Democrats Appear to do a Stunning 180-Degree Turn On This Aspect of Their Trump-Ukraine Impeachment Push
Townhall.com ^ | December 3, 2019 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 12/03/2019 3:36:34 PM PST by Kaslin

Edited on 12/04/2019 1:08:47 AM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

As Katie wrote, the Democrats' impeachment report is out. It’s 300 pages long—and it’s a work of pure fiction. It’s partisan trash. We all know it is; Democrats have admitted it. This is about them trying to reverse the results of the 2016 election. It was grounded in Russian collusion nonsense, which turned out to be a pure myth. Now, we have this Trump-Ukraine phone call drama, where Trump reportedly tried to shake down the Ukrainians into investigating corruption allegations into Hunter Biden’s position at Burisma or risk having military aid withheld. We’re onto quid pro quo now.

Oh, and this all came to light thanks to a CIA agent, who is also a registered Democrat and had worked with a 2020 candidate, filed a whistleblower report about this despite not having heard the call. It’s all second-hand information. And this person had contacted Rep. Adam Schiff’s (D-CA) staff prior to filing the report. Schiff probably knows this person, he wants Trump out, and as chair of the House Intelligence Committee, he has set this in motion. He’s spearheading the push, already getting things together to weaponize this report in order to execute this impeachment push Democrats have been lusting to do for years. 

Impeachment is not a legal battle. It’s a political maneuver, but you still need facts and evidence. Impeachment based on dislike or political disagreement is not considered something that meets the vague “high crimes and misdemeanors” benchmark, but this is where we are. What happened to that aspect? The Trump-Ukraine whistleblower report was supposed to be the smoking gun. The guns are smoking when it comes to booting Trump, right? Yet, once again, Democrats got a face-full of buckshot. The witnesses Schiff dragged onto the Hill offered nothing earth-shattering. There were no bombshells, which is why Democrats waited so long to bring this effort out of the basement. They know torpedo-sized holes will tear this narrative apart, just like Russian collusion. Why? There is no smoking gun. Hence, why Democrats and Trump haters are saying that they don’t need such evidence to impeach the president. Sounds like mission creep, huh? It sounds like a partisan witch hunt. It sounds like the Democrats perverting American institutions (via Washington Examiner):

Words missing from Adam Schiff's 300 page impeachment in search of a crime report:

"I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo."

And with 611 mentions of Amb. Sondland, NOT ONCE do Dems mention that not a single person on the planet told him there was a quid pro quo regarding aid— Elizabeth Harrington (@LizRNC) December 3, 2019

Florida Rep. Val Demings maintained that President Trump should be impeached even if the alleged quid pro quo with Ukraine never took place.

Demings, a Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, was asked during an interview on This Week whether it was relevant to the impeachment proceedings that Trump’s request for an investigation into Joe Biden never came to fruition. Host Martha Raddatz noted that no investigation into the Bidens ever happened and Ukraine received its military aid anyway, but Demings maintained that it was irrelevant.

“You’re going to make me go back to my law enforcement experience. I had an opportunity in 27 years to deal with a lot of people who attempted to rob a bank, attempted to burglarize a house, attempted to carjack an individual,” Demings said. “We didn’t say, ‘Well, since you weren’t successful, we caught you, you weren’t successful so let’s just let you go and forget it.”

Well, talk about a 180-degree turn since September at least with the 2020 candidates. Like with Russian collusion, I think we have a lot to suggest that there is no solid evidence of the so-called quid pro quo. I mean even the witnesses in this circus, like Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman who listened in on the call, said that the president could legally withhold aid.

In all, it was a series of career bureaucrats who disagreed with Trump on Ukraine policy. That’s not a crime. This being framed as the crime of the century is absurd. The Democrats needed smoking guns in September. And now, with no evidence, no movement in the polls regarding support for impeachment—the Left decided to forgo evidence in order to get Trump. That’s fine. They only look like bigger clowns and battleground state voters, who already are sour on this whole fiasco, will only be less inclined to vote Democratic in 2020. The Trump agenda has helped these states. They’re the ones who will decide the next election—and they’re all that impressed with the 2020 Democratic field. And just like in 2016, a lot of these folks are former Obama voters. 

Democrats tried to lay down the foundation of this impeachment game in the basement. They released selective transcripts that only favored their narrative and for good reason. When this thing entered the public arena, it ended with an underwhelming thud. There’s been nothing new that would be considered a game-changer, but Democrats need to keep this impeachment theater open—even if it’s solely run on snake oil. No evidence is needed to go after your enemies, huh? And people think Trump is the one who is mentally ill and sick in the head. 

Oh, and this entire impeachment acid trip Democrats are forcing us all to participate in only helps Russia. Russia wanted division in the U.S.. The Democrats are doing a fine job with that because...'orange man, bad.' 


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: alexandervindman; burisma; declassification; ericciaramella; fbi; fisa; housedemonrats; impeachment; presidenttrump; ukraine
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The rest of the title is: Aspect of Their Trump-Ukraine Impeachment Push
1 posted on 12/03/2019 3:36:34 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Fraud, waste and abuse of tax $$$$$$$!


2 posted on 12/03/2019 3:40:51 PM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Kaslin

AMERICA HAS DIED.....


3 posted on 12/03/2019 3:42:54 PM PST by ncfool (Impeachment: The Democrat campaign to re-elect Trump - Keep America Great 2020)
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To: Kaslin

um..guys...

WHY THE #### ARE WE PAYING HUGE SALARIES TO 432 PEOPLE WHO CAN WASTE 3 YEARS ACCOMPLISHING NOTHING BUT TRYING TO TAKE DOWN OUR PRESIDENT!??!?

I know, Rs weren’t in on it, most at least, but it shows that we might just need a PART TIME CONGRESS with term limits and throw them 40k a year for their PART TIME effort.

Or maybe i’m completely wrong


4 posted on 12/03/2019 3:43:55 PM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: Kaslin

INSANE PICTURE! KIM KARDASHIAN AND OTHER NAKED Democrats Appear to do a Stunning 180-Degree Turn On This. WAIT TILL YOU SEE NUMBER 12!


5 posted on 12/03/2019 3:44:24 PM PST by golux
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Makes you wonder if Americans were always slimy liars and cheaters and the Internet has simply shinned a bright spotlight on them exposing the worst of humanity that always existed. It is hard to believe that it is true. But it was a very recent mainstream idea that America is evil and Americans are bad.

Being proud to be American was what bound us across the broad spectrum of political beliefs.


6 posted on 12/03/2019 3:49:18 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: dp0622

This time brother, you’re completely right.


7 posted on 12/03/2019 3:50:34 PM PST by Hugh the Scot ("Jesus was a fundamentalist".- BipolarBob)
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To: Kaslin

Imagine a Chinese or Haitian dissident reporting on Clinton crimes affecting them in their home country to Trump... well, there, Trump’s patriotism and humanitarian impetus would be defined as seeking foreign electoral influence!

This is all about COVERING UP HILLARY AND FORBIDDING RAISING AN INVESTIGATION OF WHAT THESE TRAITORS LIKE OBAMA DID TO EGYPT OR ELSEWHERE so as to kill good immigrants and let in communist terrorist trash to be nurtured here.


8 posted on 12/03/2019 3:51:52 PM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hatse:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified e)
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To: Kaslin

there was no quid pro quo.
none was necessary, either, since Ukraine agreed to help the investigation (since it involved corruption in Ukraine, not just in USA/Bidens, etc.)

but had there been quid pro quo.. it would have been totally appropriate and legal
and indeed, one could argue the president would’ve been derelict in his duty had he NOT quidded pro quoed
to get Ukraine to honor its treaty with USA and investigate international criminals like Biden, etc.


9 posted on 12/03/2019 3:52:06 PM PST by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Hugh the Scot

It happens like every 23rd post of mine :)


10 posted on 12/03/2019 3:52:35 PM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: rktman

Used toilet paper is better reading than the treasonous Demonicrats’ document.


11 posted on 12/03/2019 3:54:58 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: Kaslin
Vespa is a better writer than this. To end the piece with “orange man bad” is pathetic.
12 posted on 12/03/2019 3:58:48 PM PST by Fungi
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To: dhs12345
Makes you wonder if Americans were always slimy liars and cheaters and the Internet has simply shinned a bright spotlight on them

Welcome to my world. ;-)

In my old age I am convinced humans created language so they could lie to each other.
13 posted on 12/03/2019 4:02:39 PM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: Kaslin

Quid Pro Quo describes every aspect of politics and diplomacy the world over.

That it has Dems in high dudgeon shows they are either disingenuous partisans, or simply imbeciles.


14 posted on 12/03/2019 4:02:40 PM PST by karnage
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To: Kaslin

I went to Burger King today and gave the worker money and he gave me a hamburger. It was a total Quid Pro Quo, and bribery, and extortion. Plus I ate the evidence.


15 posted on 12/03/2019 4:05:52 PM PST by Rad_J
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To: karnage

“That it has Dems in high dudgeon shows they are either disingenuous partisans, or simply imbeciles.”


They are disingenuous partisans who believe that WE are imbeciles...imbeciles who need to be told what to do by them.


16 posted on 12/03/2019 4:10:02 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Kaslin

any chance you could ecsin in a single sentence what is the 180 degree turn? They said X and now they are saying the opposite of X


17 posted on 12/03/2019 4:13:46 PM PST by edwinland
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To: Kaslin

Rats deserting a sinking Schiff...


18 posted on 12/03/2019 4:25:05 PM PST by null and void (Convicted spies are shot, traitors are hanged, saboteurs are subject to summary execution...)
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To: Rad_J

How dare you, have you no shame, Sir!


19 posted on 12/03/2019 4:26:30 PM PST by Eagles Field
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To: Rad_J

I went to a Italian restaurant and gave the worker money and he gave me calamari. It was a total Squid Pro Quo, and bribery, and extortion. Plus I ate the evidence.


20 posted on 12/03/2019 4:28:08 PM PST by null and void (Convicted spies are shot, traitors are hanged, saboteurs are subject to summary execution...)
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