Live Thread - Impeachment Hearings 11/19/2019

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[CWW]

They need to go after this Lt. Colonel. Self important deep stater!

[freedom1st]

Sorry, I used the wrong term. Schiff confirmed he lied in a Congressional Hearing.

[Political Junkie Too]

Generally, yes, but there are some major differences:

1. The United States came first. The EU, perhaps, was modeled on us.
2. The EU members were mostly monarchies for centuries, even millennia. The United States was never a monarchy or conquered state, and began as the Great Experiment of a government by the consent of the people. This is what "American Exceptionalism" meant, as it was the first of its kind.
3. In the United States, everyone spoke the same language and had the same currency. The EU members spoke different languages and gave up their national currencies.
4. In the United States, everyone had the same loyalty. In the EU, cultural and ethnic identities remained under the surface, an may be about to burst back out into the open.

-PJ

[xkaydet65]

Dems said similar things about Ollie North. They noted that Poindexter did not wear his uniform and North did so for effect. So are you saying the Dems were correct in their criticism of Col. North?

[centurion316]

Pretty clear now that LTC Vindman was the source for the Whistle-blower ...which would be a crime.

I think that you are correct, and the committee is going to great lengths to conceal it. I think that the truth will eventually be known, but I doubt that these hearings produce it.

[pnz1]

Oh good grief, now he needs a break.

[Mears]

I turned my car radio off when he started talking about his immigrant father———I’m so sick of that stuff.

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[cuban leaf]

Yes. That is why I called it a “pre-civil war” perspective. And I mean I “loosely” compare it to the EU.

I keep thinking about, before the war, people calling themselves “virginians”.

I use this analogy, before the war, the country was like a brick wall. The bricks are states and the mortar is the FedGov.

But now it is a mortar wall with fifty little marbles embedded in it.

[centurion316]

A TA 312 will work much better

[milagro]

Thanks—just figured that out myself. Unfortunately—after I’d already sent my post!

[Pondo]

When did the military do away with fitness testing for its members? Or do these deep state creeps have a different set of rules for that too?

[rainee]

Changing his diaper

[maggief]

Does that out Vindman as the leaker?

[pnut22]

It’s ironic that you can’t talk about intelligence with the intelligence committee.

[struggle]

Leftie Networks: There’s this strange conspiracy theory that the Deep State to out the president.

Um, Schumer said they would.

[Georgia Girl 2]

This smug, arrogant little pissant directly countermanded the policy of the CIC. Rep Ratcliffe tore him apart in the closed door hearings. I hope he gets a other shot today.

[Repealthe17thAmendment]

What I don't understand is why no one will outright ask him if he spoke to Eric Ciaramella about this.

Since nobody claims to know who the whistelblower is, this is just a question to find out who all might have information about the call. Especially, since Vindmann claims the person he spoke to had "a need to know", there's possibility he might know more.

The GOP should quit treating Ciaramella as though he is the whistleblower, and treat him as though he's just another possible witness.

[struggle]

>What I don’t understand is why no one will outright ask him if he spoke to Eric Ciaramella about this.

I have no idea either, but questioning hasn’t started yet.

If the name comes up, Schiff will gavel like crazy.

[enumerated]

“So, the President is supposed to follow talking points?”

Apparently, these Democrats believe they can convince the American people that it is somehow inappropriate for a POTUS to contradict “established” state department policy.

So they are going to call up deep state bureaucrats, one by one, to bitch about the swamp being drained, complain about the President ignoring their advice, and to question his motives for doing so.

With a Presidential election less than a year away, I doubt very much the American people will take kindly to the Democrats’ attempt to usurp their voting prerogative by impeaching the President, especially on such flimsy grounds.

All the President needs to say the these Democrats is:

“Let the voters decide - I’ll see you in the voting booth.”

Devon Nunes: “How is it possible for you to...out the whistleblower...if you don’t know who he is?” Good question!

[pnut22]

Has anyone read the signs behind the republicans?

[Political Junkie Too]

Schiff is not under oath. I don’t think he can perjure himself.

He's under the oath of office as a Representative in the United States Congress.

-PJ