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Stanford professor who changed America with just one study was also a liar
New York Post ^ | November 2, 2019 | Susannah Cahalan

Posted on 11/11/2019 9:01:49 AM PST by null and void

His research work was also groundbreaking. In 1973, Rosenhan published the paper “On Being Sane in Insane Places” in the prestigious journal Science, and it was a sensation. The study, in which eight healthy volunteers went undercover as “pseudopatients” in 12 psychiatric hospitals across the country, discovered harrowing conditions that led to national outrage. His findings helped expedite the widespread closure of psychiatric institutions across the country, changing mental health care in the US forever...

...Had Rosenhan been more measured in his treatment of the hospitals, had he included Lando’s data, there’s a chance a different dialogue, less extreme in its certainty, would have emerged from his study, and maybe, just maybe, we’d be in a better place.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California; US: New York
KEYWORDS: california; insane; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkpost; sanity; sciencetrust; stanford; susannahcahalan
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This lead to the emptying of mental hospitals onto the streets of America.

Thanks a bunch, liar.

Excerpted per post #312 on the Updated FR Excerpt and Link Only or Deny Posting List due to Copyright Complaints

1 posted on 11/11/2019 9:01:49 AM PST by null and void
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To: null and void

BOTH can be true.

There could be harrowing conditions. And the institutions could be necessary.

There have been harrowing conditions in many prisons over the years, yet nobody proposes doing away with prisons.


2 posted on 11/11/2019 9:07:42 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: null and void

Very common.

Rachel Carson was a bad scientist. We got rid of DDT and we didn’t need to. Her science was flawed.


3 posted on 11/11/2019 9:16:03 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
yet nobody proposes doing away with prisons.

Ummmmmm have you watched the news lately?

4 posted on 11/11/2019 9:16:46 AM PST by null and void (Convicted spies are shot, traitors are hanged, saboteurs are subject to summary execution...)
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To: null and void

Your most honorable Nullness. Will comment on this thread at the end of the day. You will know why then and until then, may the Void be still.


5 posted on 11/11/2019 9:18:14 AM PST by Fungi
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To: Buckeye McFrog
There have been harrowing conditions in many prisons over the years, yet nobody proposes doing away with prisons.

There are some on the Left who would advocate for this.

6 posted on 11/11/2019 9:18:25 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ClearCase_guy
Yep, and now that we know Silent Spring was flawed we've saved up to a million people a year from a malarial death by simply bringing back DDT.

oh wait...

7 posted on 11/11/2019 9:20:06 AM PST by null and void (Convicted spies are shot, traitors are hanged, saboteurs are subject to summary execution...)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Maybe we need to hold a contest to come up with the most destructive academic in US History.

Rosenhan? Rachel Carson? Bill Ayers? Alfred Kinsey?

It would be a barn-burner of a competition that’s for sure.


8 posted on 11/11/2019 9:20:17 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

From the looks of things in New York and California I’d say they are looking to abolish prisons


9 posted on 11/11/2019 9:22:51 AM PST by Rj Snows (Some years back Sacramento area used to be the capital of tomatoes)
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To: null and void

Psychological studies have been shown to have something like a 70% rate of irreproducibility. I wonder what the rates are for political science & sociology. Biologists, hard scientists & engineers shouldn’t feel too comfortable their rates irreproducibility in academic papers is scandalous also.


10 posted on 11/11/2019 9:23:19 AM PST by Reily (D)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I’d like to see David Horowitz do a ranked list of destructive academics.


11 posted on 11/11/2019 9:23:45 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

Being a history major I’d probably have to go with Howard Zinn.


12 posted on 11/11/2019 9:25:04 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: null and void

Unlike a lot of you guys here, I actually worked for a brief time AT a “state hospital” while going to school. This would have been mid 70’s.

Harrowing? No .. geez ... fanciful writing I have to assume.


13 posted on 11/11/2019 9:26:53 AM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: ClearCase_guy

These days I will assert that pretty much all science is flawed. Carson was just ahead of her time.


14 posted on 11/11/2019 9:27:17 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Leftists/communists want us to give up fuel, a/c, electricity, air travel, cars - basically modern life., because

fake science.

15 posted on 11/11/2019 9:27:57 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the disco)
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To: null and void

very interesting story. The history of psychology is certainly rife with fraud, abuse and hubris. We’re still living in the dark ages as far as understanding the human brain in any scientific sense. Better than 1970, but still mostly ignorant.


16 posted on 11/11/2019 9:30:04 AM PST by babble-on
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Definitely should be near the top.


17 posted on 11/11/2019 9:30:08 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: _Jim

Yes but “harrowing” sells books & gets attention “boring” doesn’t!


18 posted on 11/11/2019 9:30:46 AM PST by Reily
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Don’t forget Paul Ehrlich.


19 posted on 11/11/2019 9:33:38 AM PST by colorado tanker
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“One student recalled how Rosenhan opened one of his lectures while sitting on a student’s lap — as a way to test the class’ reaction to abnormal behavior.”

I’m convinced everyone in the field of psychology originally became interested in it because they wanted to figure out what was wrong with themselves.


20 posted on 11/11/2019 9:36:33 AM PST by Boogieman
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