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FORTUNE: The S&P 500 Is at an All Time High—But Markets Still Performed Far Better Under Obama
Fortune ^ | 11/04/2019 | Erik Sherman

Posted on 11/04/2019 8:32:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: The Chid
>>> What happens when you remove the artificial gains due to QE 1 and 2?

What happens when you don’t cut rates like we’re doing now? What happens when the FED doesn’t pump $200 billion into the economy like they did last month-even though they aren’t calling it QE?

The markets are manipulated-period. I would love to see a graph of the markets if the rates were left alone, there was no intervention of the PPT on numerous occasions and there was QT. I doubt the markets would be making new highs-and if anyone thinks they would-well-they don’t invest ACTIVELY on a daily basis.

41 posted on 11/04/2019 8:53:55 AM PST by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog s<how. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: Beagle8U
so they pulled something out of their ass and said ‘Orange man bad’.

Yeah, if you look at the journohack Erik Sherman's Twitter feed, he's Resistance all the way.

Which means this article is DNC cowplop.

42 posted on 11/04/2019 8:54:18 AM PST by kiryandil (The Media & the DNC tells you who you're gonna vote for. We CHOSE Trump.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Fortune is now and always has been a left wing rag. It is now but one more home for propaganda spewing presstitutes

Why do you post such nonsense?


43 posted on 11/04/2019 8:54:31 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: SeekAndFind

You are bright enough to know that obama came in when the market had utterly CRASHED?!?!?!

Stop being a pu##y and just say you don’t like Trump instead of putting thread after thread and then scurrying away like a ####ing faggot.

At least you’d gain some self respect.


44 posted on 11/04/2019 8:54:48 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: SeekAndFind

All I know is our 401s and 403s

LOOKED NOTHING LIKE THOSE CHARTS...NOTHING LIKE THEM.

Since January 2017 we are HAPPY CAMPERS

I could not care LESS ABOUT THOSE STUPID CHARTS


45 posted on 11/04/2019 8:57:49 AM PST by Maris Crane
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To: EC Washington

How the mighty have fallen.


46 posted on 11/04/2019 8:57:54 AM PST by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: dp0622; admin

RE: Stop being a pu##y and just say you don’t like Trump instead of putting thread after thread and then scurrying away like a ####ing faggot.

I hasten to remind you that there are rules in this forum against using foul languages. Posting information from FORTUNE does not mean that I agree with them. You are well within your rights to refute them if you wish.

I do not want to continue a mutual insulting match but there are civility rules here.

I am copying the moderator for his information.


47 posted on 11/04/2019 8:58:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

...But Markets Still Performed Far Better Under Obama

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Not for most Americans it didn’t. If what the writer is saying were true, then the Hilda-beast would have beaten Trump as her economic policies were merely extensions of Obama’s economic policies.


48 posted on 11/04/2019 9:00:31 AM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: SeekAndFind

charts starting with election night for trump?


49 posted on 11/04/2019 9:00:43 AM PST by Democrats hate too much
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To: SeekAndFind

The blathering reveals something important. The market went up just before Trump’s inauguration (it was in anticipation of Trump, so Trump needs to get the credit!).

It went down before bammy’s immaculation (it was out of knowledge of what bammy would do to this country, so bammy needs to get the blame!).


50 posted on 11/04/2019 9:01:11 AM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It all Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics. (To quote SLC)


51 posted on 11/04/2019 9:03:12 AM PST by Colonelbuzzsaw (USAF AIR BATTLE MANAGER, retired, Trump supporter, MAGA!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Sounds like you buy this horsehockey, hook line & sinker.

Figures never lie, but liars always figure.

52 posted on 11/04/2019 9:04:08 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump, and most REAL economists, know that the stock market performance is not totally indicative of the health of the economy. Proof of that is the Obama economy, which performed very poorly while the stock market was doing well.

Now we have an economy which is performing fantastically, while the stock market is also doing well. I’d say that the vast majority of people in the country would prefer the Trump economy over Obama’s.

If not for the waiting that investors are doing regarding the trade deal with China, the stock market would easily have topped the 30,000 mark by now, and perhaps would be approaching 35,000. Once the deal is made (if ever), the stock market will soar, and it would have gains much larger than during Obama, and not just in the pure number, but in percentage gains.


53 posted on 11/04/2019 9:05:55 AM PST by adorno
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To: sheehan

Obama was busy prancing around the WH with his selfie stick. He didn’t know a thing about business.


54 posted on 11/04/2019 9:05:57 AM PST by cnsmom
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To: Robert DeLong

Everyone I know is turning down work, including me.


55 posted on 11/04/2019 9:06:52 AM PST by kiryandil (The Media & the DNC tells you who you're gonna vote for. We CHOSE Trump.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Disingenuous.

1) The market rallied 30% after Trump was elected through inauguration. That should be counted towards Trump's performance
2) Obama was starting from the lowest levels of the last two decades. Trump was starting near the top of the highest levels ever.

56 posted on 11/04/2019 9:07:06 AM PST by rb22982
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To: Robert DeLong

RE: Sounds like you buy this horsehockey, hook line & sinker.

Really? You must have the gift of mind reading.


57 posted on 11/04/2019 9:08:00 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: kiryandil

Amy V is an evil little leftist propagandist of the worst kind. A long history of subversive leftist efforts.


58 posted on 11/04/2019 9:08:11 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Air temperatures were higher when Obama was president, but it was cooler. Do these people even believe their own lies?


59 posted on 11/04/2019 9:09:27 AM PST by notdownwidems (Washington D.C. has become the enemy of free people everywhere!)
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To: Gahanna Bob

“Did Michael Mann do this graph?” LOL!!!


60 posted on 11/04/2019 9:10:04 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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