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Brooklyn School Votes to End Gifted and Talented Programs to Diversify Classrooms
ny1.com ^ | June 19, 2019 | Jillian Jorgensen

Posted on 11/02/2019 12:06:01 AM PDT by grundle

As the city grapples with how to better integrate its schools, one Brooklyn elementary school has a suggestion: Getting rid of its gifted and talented classes.

"A test that kids sit for when they're three or four is not a measure necessarily of their academic capacity, but really a measure of the access to resources that they've had," said Kirsten Cole, co-chair of the school's Diversity and Inclusion Committee.

P.S. 9's school leadership team voted to send the proposal, which would phase out the program starting in 2020, to the district superintendent for his consideration.

The school, in Prospect Heights, is diverse. Cole said black students are underrepresented in gifted and talented classes.

"As the neighborhood has gentrified, the G&T track has gotten more and more white, more and more affluent," she said.

Most parents at the meeting were in support. But one said other alternatives, like his proposal to add diversity screening to gifted and talented classes, hadn't really been part of school discussions on the issue.

"I felt like the process that led to the G&T phase out proposal wasn't well considered, that it was set up in such a way that not everyone felt that they could have their voice heard," Michael Heimbinder said.

The school leadership team didn't recommend his proposal, with some saying gifted and talented classes are problematic by their very nature.

"I think that these programs foster a sense of entitled in these students that is not beneficial to the students themselves over the long term," school leadership team member Andrew Case said.

The vote comes as the city moves to end the use of a single test for admission to elite high schools and gifted and talented programs, which test much younger students, could be next. While some lawmakers, including State Senator Leroy Comrie, have proposed increasing gifted and talented classes in an effort to diversify the top high schools, Chancellor Richard Carranza has been skeptical.

"When you're talking about gifted and talented as a panacea, you're talking about further segregating children," he said earlier this year.

As for what comes next citywide, the mayor's School Diversity Advisory Group is set to issue recommendations on gifted and talented programs in the coming weeks.


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1 posted on 11/02/2019 12:06:01 AM PDT by grundle
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for additional fun see https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/31/honors-classes-math-racist-activists/


2 posted on 11/02/2019 12:09:23 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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They are quite correct. "Gifted" is the last thing anyone would say about Democrats. The madrassas of Pakistan are good at rote, unquestioning memorization of dogma. There is the new educational model.

They can use Leninism for Social Studies, Lysenkoism for science, and teaching math is re-enforcing white privilege. Art must support the State.

Given the limited curriculum, they should be able to put line workers into the People's Factories by the time they are 12. The Glorious Proletariat only needs one deodorant, one tooth paste, and standing in line for bread is all part of being a Warrior in the Struggle.

3 posted on 11/02/2019 12:18:17 AM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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wow. good.


4 posted on 11/02/2019 12:19:28 AM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: Mount Athos

That “educator of color” in your linked article looks pretty white to me.

Just like Elizabeth Warren.


5 posted on 11/02/2019 12:35:15 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The Electoral College is the firewall protecting us from massive blue state vote fraud.)
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To: grundle

Just what you’d expect mediocre people to do.


6 posted on 11/02/2019 12:41:09 AM PDT by Bullish (My tagline ran off with another man.)
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As the neighborhood has gentrified, the G and T track has become more white and affluent. Well, we can’t have that now, can we?


7 posted on 11/02/2019 12:42:01 AM PDT by Crucial
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Once again we see the test is the reason a certain group can not measure up. The ultimate solution is to just get rid of white and Asian students completely and then the system will have utopia.


8 posted on 11/02/2019 12:47:42 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: grundle

Am I the only one here who doesn’t care whether a school ends its “gifted & talented” program?

If parents don’t like their children’s public school, they’re free to pay to send their kids to a private school (or homeschool).


9 posted on 11/02/2019 12:50:56 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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“THE YEAR WAS 2081, and everybody was finally equal. They weren’t only equal before God and the law. They were equal every which way. Nobody was smarter than anybody else. Nobody was better looking than anybody else. Nobody was stronger or quicker than anybody else. All this equality was due to the 211th, 212th, and 213th Amendments to the Constitution, and to the unceasing vigilance of agents of the United States Handicapper General.” - K. Vonnegut Jr in “Harrison Bergeron”


10 posted on 11/02/2019 12:51:25 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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Happening in Anaheim, CA schools this next year or the next as well.

Wife is a gate teacher.

Schools are a mess.


11 posted on 11/02/2019 12:55:45 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Mount Athos

Child abuse. Punishing gifted students for making the others looks bad. Too many Whites and Asians you see.


12 posted on 11/02/2019 12:59:25 AM PDT by Hacksaw (Support Alt-Tech: Gab.ai, Infogalactic.com, Brave browser, ProtonMail)
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So, the Liberal educators are admitting that Peoples Of Colour cannot compete intellectually with White folk.

Good for them.

13 posted on 11/02/2019 1:11:56 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: Tired of Taxes
If parents don’t like their children’s public school, they’re free to pay to send their kids to a private school (or homeschool).

Yeah, after all, they could then deduct the tuition for the private school from their school taxes, right?

Right?!

Regards,

14 posted on 11/02/2019 1:24:23 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: grundle

Crabs in a bucket.


15 posted on 11/02/2019 1:43:54 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (CALIZUELA)
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To: irishjuggler

Is this the story where the higher intelligence persons are being given dumb down pills to bring their functioning down to average levels?


16 posted on 11/02/2019 1:54:32 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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To: grundle

1. Problem: Black students are over-represented in suspensions and expulsions. Solution: End suspensions and expulsions.
2. Problem: Black students are underrepresented in gifted and talented classes. Solution: End gifted and talented classes.


17 posted on 11/02/2019 2:38:57 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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Diversity is to lower the overall common denominator of the quality of the societal whole. The sacrifice is upon all the top quality and performing individuals as funding resources are limited. Caring for bottom of the barrel students is several times more costly than simply freeing top performers to exercise their own drive and thirst for excellence. Diversity in many cases is nothing more than contamination of the RATE of societal progression. The drag anchor on the RATE of societal betterment.


18 posted on 11/02/2019 2:46:25 AM PDT by USCG SimTech
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“Diversity and Inclusion Committee”

If your city or town has one of these—it is time to move.

Sell your home and beat the rush!


19 posted on 11/02/2019 2:47:32 AM PDT by cgbg (Vote Trump or you will _be_ Trump)
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To: USCG SimTech
Diversity is to lower the overall common denominator of the quality of the societal whole. The sacrifice is upon all the top quality and performing individuals as funding resources are limited. Caring for bottom of the barrel students is several times more costly than simply freeing top performers to exercise their own drive and thirst for excellence. Diversity in many cases is nothing more than contamination of the RATE of societal progression. The drag anchor on the RATE of societal betterment.

The argument from the left starts out at, and is fiercely defended at, the onset emotional stance of relieving someones "pain" regardless of the cost the societal whole. Just like in taxation, the whole doesn't have a name, face or skin color so it can be burdened without anyone on the lefts conscience being tweaked.

Especially since the narrative is that the USA society being burdened is evil in it's history and totality already, from their projection, as racist, bigoted and too white.

20 posted on 11/02/2019 3:00:17 AM PDT by USCG SimTech
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