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Police Owe Nothing To Man Whose Home They Blew Up, Appeals Court Says
NPR ^ | 10/31/19 | Bobby Allyn

Posted on 10/31/2019 12:31:05 PM PDT by OddLane

An armed shoplifting suspect in Colorado barricaded himself in a stranger's suburban Denver home in June 2015. In an attempt to force the suspect out, law enforcement blew up walls with explosives, fired tear gas and drove a military-style armored vehicle through the property's doors.

After an hours-long siege, the home was left with shredded walls and blown-out windows. In some parts of the interior, the wood framing was exposed amid a mountain of debris.

A federal appeals court in Denver ruled this week that the homeowner, who had no connection to the suspect, isn't entitled to be compensated, because the police were acting to preserve the safety of the public.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: eminentdomain; ib4tg; leo
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To: OddLane

Posted on 10/30 with almost 200 replies:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3790196/posts


121 posted on 10/31/2019 3:13:14 PM PDT by upchuck (Criminals love gun control. It gives them a safe work environment.)
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To: OddLane

Oh, and by the way...

Sorry about your dog, but there are lots of replacements at the shelter.

/Sarc Off


122 posted on 10/31/2019 3:13:53 PM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (January 20, 2017, High Noon. The end of an error.)
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To: TexasGator

If he’s happy then why did he file the lawsuit in the first place?


123 posted on 10/31/2019 3:14:20 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: ctdonath2
The problem with your argument is that there is no reason to destroy a house just because a suspect is holed up in it. Every day, police all over the country face these scenarios, and I have never heard of a single one being shelled and rocketed just to get to a shoplifter of all things. They negotiate with them, they wait them out; if they do have to go in, they go in with a SWAT team, not the field artillery.

You completely fail your own “reasonableness” test.

124 posted on 10/31/2019 3:15:06 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Power is more often surrendered than seized.)
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To: redfreedom

“He probably did have insurance, but will that policy cover police action or however the insurance company would define it in there own list of exclusions.

I can see the insurance company covering fire, tornadoes & other storms, vandalism - but police action?”

They paid. The city paid his deductibles plus $5000 for temporary lodging.


125 posted on 10/31/2019 3:15:40 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: hinckley buzzard

You are missing a few facts.

High on meth he tried to run down a cop and then unprovoked started shooting at them when caught trying to steal a car.

When they entered the house he started shooting through the walls at them.


126 posted on 10/31/2019 3:16:51 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

Lol, and did his rates triple?


127 posted on 10/31/2019 3:17:14 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Oscar in Batangas

“Sorry about your dog, but there are lots of replacements at the shelter.”

Both dogs are healthy!


128 posted on 10/31/2019 3:17:42 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: LibertyWoman

You wonder why don’t you? How much can it cost for such insurance? Not much.


129 posted on 10/31/2019 3:18:51 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: hinckley buzzard

“just to get to a shoplifter of all things”

High on meth, several counts of attempted murder and attempted car theft ...


130 posted on 10/31/2019 3:19:27 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Openurmind

“Lol, and did his rates triple?”

Usually rates are mostly determined by the value.


131 posted on 10/31/2019 3:20:38 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: LibertyWoman

“Many policies will not cover a ‘police action’..”

Most do. His did.


132 posted on 10/31/2019 3:21:52 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Alberta's Child

“If he’s happy then why did he file the lawsuit in the first place?”

More $$ to help pay for his new luxury house that replaced his 1974 relic.


133 posted on 10/31/2019 3:24:40 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: ml/nj
Send your check to 4219 S Alton:

See the source image

134 posted on 10/31/2019 3:30:31 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator
You obviously don’t know the whole story!

I'm confused. What difference does the financial history of the house have to do with anything?

What was the house worth last month? What will it take to restore it to that value?

And do you know anyone collecting for the rope?

ML/NJ

135 posted on 10/31/2019 3:41:08 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: imardmd1
I'd heard of this even though I lived out west in Arizona at the time. It didn't sound right to me for the city to blow up the houses and cause so much collateral damage, killing those folks who were innocent residents, especially the children and burning down a whole block of homes.

But this incident in the FR thread was just about as appalling on a smaller scale. No one was killed but they police were chasing a SHOPLIFTER for Christ's sake. Yes, he was armed but he was holed up in the house and they could have waited him out before he did any harm to anyone.

Like I said, this is not acceptable in the US. I hope the homeowner wins on appeal to the SC.

136 posted on 10/31/2019 3:42:29 PM PDT by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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To: OddLane

B.S. Purpose of government cannot override the constitution to not take from the citizens.


137 posted on 10/31/2019 3:44:27 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: TexasGator

And now it is worth three times more... :)

I actually posted the reassessment comment before I read your reply about how he had indeed already collected on it well. But I still think some sort of compensation is due from the police. Maybe the insurance companies lawyers will now go collect? They should... It’s not like it was an act of god situation?


138 posted on 10/31/2019 3:45:45 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: ml/nj

“I’m confused. What difference does the financial history of the house have to do with anything?

What was the house worth last month? What will it take to restore it to that value?”

He was paid over$345,000 to restore to original condition.

Instead he built a new luxury home for about $900,000.

I posted a picture of his new house and the address for you to send your check to,


139 posted on 10/31/2019 3:46:05 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: ml/nj

Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts.


140 posted on 10/31/2019 3:47:11 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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