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Impeachment is regime suicide
Spectator.US ^ | 10-1-2019 | Daniel McCarthy

Posted on 10/02/2019 5:09:36 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot

The ruling class still believes in a consensus that doesn’t exist. Their legitimacy is vanishing

The Democratic party and the chattering classes are playing a dangerous game with impeachment.

Their are two modern precedents — Nixon’s resignation before his probable impeachment in 1974 and Bill Clinton’s actual impeachment in 1998. But neither is comparable to the contemplated impeachment of Donald Trump. All impeachments are partisan, but this one is in doubly bad faith: it has no chance of succeeding in removing Trump, and it has no chance of acquitting him in a way that will strengthen faith in the country’s institutions.

The only outcome possible is to confirm for Democrats and Republicans alike the idea that 2020 is a regime-change moment, for reasons that go far beyond Trump.

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With Trump, everything is different. The 2016 election was a referendum on the regime itself. Trump resurrected the populist attacks on the country’s political and economic establishment that Buchanan and Perot had battle-tested in the 1990s.

Trump was no mere conventional Republican who happened to beat Hillary Clinton. He was a completely unconventional Republican who first beat the party’s own ideological standard-bearers during the primaries, in the course of which he often said things that no Republican had said for a generation or more.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.us ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: impeachment; kag; maga; trump; trumpukraine; ukraine
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To: Jeff Vader

You are right. I misplaced a zero somewhere.


61 posted on 10/02/2019 8:26:59 AM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: marktwain

Cronkite showed the media exactly what they could do. Damn the man!


62 posted on 10/02/2019 8:30:36 AM PDT by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: thirst4truth

My buddy and I took Home’ec in 1958, only guys who did in a 1,200 student body.


63 posted on 10/02/2019 8:35:01 AM PDT by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Electing Trump was the public’s way of impeaching that [leadership] class.

-PJ

64 posted on 10/02/2019 8:35:36 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: OregonRancher
Cronkite showed the media exactly what they could do. Damn the man!

Yes. Crohkite was one of the top people in the Mediacracy.

But it does not have a formal heirarchy or command structure. It is a committed ideology, committed to its conception of the structure of the Universe, and committed to change the society into what it wants, instead of what it is.

The Mediacracy is a distributed power structure.

65 posted on 10/02/2019 8:42:34 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Kommodor
But, if you consider this paragraph carefully … Flip it over. I wonder if President Trump realizes that he isn’t necessarily the King here. Perhaps it is more accurate that he (and the deplorables) are the ones who have struck at the King (the establishment, DS, whatever you prefer to call it).

My own personal opinion is that PDJT sees the "political elite ruling class" for what it is: they think they're better than the rest of us and should tell the rest of us poor peasants how our lives should be run.

I think PDJT resents that mentality as much as I and so many of us here on FR do and is pretty hell bent on taking it down.

I will say this: PDJT is doing exactly what I'd hoped he'd do when I voted for him. That means righting the economy, getting the government off our backs and tear away the political elite institutions that have been built up over decades and decades.

I'll crawl over broken glass and weave my way through a firefight if necessary to vote for him again in 2020. Zero doubt about it.

66 posted on 10/02/2019 8:45:46 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Cboldt
Helen Thomas is at the podium!

_______________________

ROFL!! Nancy was a wild one today.

Helen Thomas with an eyelift.

67 posted on 10/02/2019 8:48:58 AM PDT by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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To: wastoute

Some folks might argue, and I’ll concede the point is worth considering, that we shouldn’t throw out the baby with the bathwater.

I see the US Constitution as a masterpiece in federated government and ensuring change is deliberate and considered.

So, to that end, I do not wish to see it replaced. I cannot image a better document, just a worse one.

Having said that, it has, over the existence of the country been serious perverted.

I’d rather see us go back—hard—to the original.

The first assault happened in Marbury. The idea that ONLY the Supreme Court can rule on Constitutionality gives them way more power than intended.

Then Lincoln’s actions in the disastrous Civil War forever changed the concept that we are a nation of separate states. We need to go back to that.

Then there’s the amendments to make Senate elections statewide popular votes, and the income tax are abhorrent. HOWEVER, both of these were passed constitutionally as amendments, so they do follow the Constitution.

The Supreme court Wickard v. Filburn decision, which said everything is considered as interstate commerce and can be regulated by Congress because “interstate commerce” is in the preamble is a BAD ruling.

None of these bad changes/decisions are worth conserving at all and are progressive and tyrannical in essence. Conservatives would be right to oppose them all.


68 posted on 10/02/2019 8:55:09 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

“..against an absolutely illegitimate and malevolent regime.”

Which is why I keep saying that the only solution to the disaster that is today’s American politics (a disaster created by an extremely aggressive establishment Left and an exceedingly passive establishment GOP) is a military one.

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69 posted on 10/02/2019 8:59:28 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (It's the corruption, stupid)
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To: Alas Babylon!

My sentiments exactly. Let’s just reboot the old document.


70 posted on 10/02/2019 8:59:46 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: The Great RJ

Another ‘Bombshell’! Frankly, the Public should be shell shocked by now.
I am constantly amazed at the extreme emotional level that ‘Progressives’ can maintain. I’m sure there’s someone studying this behavior.


71 posted on 10/02/2019 9:25:43 AM PDT by griswold3 (Democratic Socialism is Slavery by Mob Rule!)
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To: usconservative; All

I was of the opinion expressed by you and some others as well. That it being a ‘normal’ Democrats fund raising ploy, and to pacify their more and more extreme base.

However, lately, I am thinking it doesn’t matter if ‘impeachment inquiry’ is going to House vote or not.

Democrats and their enablers are playing with fire, they know they are playing with fire but don’t care. Whatever the outcome (most likely a failed attempt), they CAN NOT turn around playing innocent and tell us they didn’t know the consequences going down this road


72 posted on 10/02/2019 9:34:04 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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To: thirst4truth

My mother was a secretary at a regional bank that no longer exists thanks to Obama. That was before I was born. After that she worked in the local school administration as I was in HS. She was responsible for me taking typing. I probably would have shown more interest initially if someone had pointed out to me it was going to be me and a dozen girls - I was tempted to take it twice.

Ironically, at the time there was a teacher in my HS who was head of the science department. “Typing” was just starting to morph into “keyboarding” and he was instrumental in getting that entire class dropped from the curriculum. His reasoning? We’d all be talking to computers shortly and typing would be unnecessary.

This was the mid 1980s. Aside from the fact that here we are, 30+ years later, and it still is just starting to be practical to speak to computers, what in God’s name would you do in an office full of people if they were all talking to their computers simultaneously? It’s totally impractical. At least 20 classes of students who could have benefited from typing were denied the opportunity because of one idiot in a position with a bit of power and influence. Such is public education.

Anyway, it’s been a huge help in my career. Mom thought I would need it for research papers, but it turns out I never really had to do one in college (started in engineering, ended up in business). But it sure helps with business reports and all the typing I have to do for configuration and coding. Some of the two finger guys are pretty amazing after 30 years of practice, but I can still run circles around them when it comes to typing anything more than a few lines at a time, and I don’t have to look at my hands.


73 posted on 10/02/2019 9:48:07 AM PDT by chrisser
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To: ought-six
I’m 68, and the typewriters we had for class were all manual machines.

By the time I took it, they had phased out all the manual models. The Selectrics all had a spool of correcting tape so we didn't even have to learn how to make manual corrections. IIRC, the one-line word processing machines were just coming out where you were typing a line ahead of what was being printed and you were able to make changes if you caught them early enough.

Cutting edge stuff back in the day.
74 posted on 10/02/2019 9:52:46 AM PDT by chrisser
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To: Sir Napsalot

It’s sane.


75 posted on 10/02/2019 10:17:12 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: marktwain

“Watergate was where the current establishment flexed its muscles and established its authority. 65-75 was where the Mediacracy took control. The US population is now working hard to throw off the yoke of the Mediacracy, which has ruled for 50 years.”

Excellent point.


76 posted on 10/02/2019 10:19:27 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: ought-six
"I’m 68, and the typewriters we had for class were all manual machines."

Our typing class (small rural school) had all manuals, except one IBM electric (not sure if it was a "Selectric). The students rotated among all the machines, so everyone got exposed to all the different makes and types. Boys and girls both in the class. The Gals hated me, because I could out-do all of the future secretaries in both speed and accuracy. Good keyboarding has stood me in good stead over the years.

77 posted on 10/02/2019 2:05:19 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Kommodor

Interesting take, I haven’t considered this angle....


78 posted on 10/02/2019 4:43:02 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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To: Sir Napsalot

The mattering nabobs.


79 posted on 10/02/2019 6:05:59 PM PDT by ully2
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To: Alas Babylon!

This is a rarity.

An insightful and intelligent post.


80 posted on 10/02/2019 6:10:06 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot (I won`t be wronged. I won`t be insulted. I won`t be laid a hand on. - John Bernard Books)
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