Posted on 09/14/2019 6:36:46 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
Edward Snowden will join two U.S. news shows in the coming days to promotes the release of his memoir.
Snowden, the 36-year-old former intelligence analyst who was responsible for leaking information about the National Security Agency's global and domestic surveillance programs, currently lives in Russia after he applied for political asylum following he fled from the U.S.
He is set to join both "CBS This morning" and MSNBC's Brian Williams on Monday, where Snowden will face questions about his 2013 disclosure of leaked documents as well as his book, "Permanent Record," set to be published on Sept. 17.
"Edward Snowden, the man who risked everything to expose the US government’s system of mass surveillance, reveals for the first time the story of his life, including how he helped to build that system and what motivated him to try to bring it down," his publisher said last month.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
No they haven’t. Check the operating systems of your wireless router if you have one. Most likely it has patched CIA version . How it works is ... nevermind
Snowden would not be dead. Snowden was a nobody compared to Epstein. He was a anti -American SJW hiding in the IC looking for his 15 minutes of fame and a payout. Like I said, traitorous POS. What he may have ‘exposed’ wrt domestic spying abuse came out independently in the Trump mueller fiasco.
They’re secret agencies. True, we will never know about them whether good or ill.
But, unlike you, I don’t trust government, sorry. But that doesn’t mean that I can’t complain about government abuses by the alphabets.
So you you want me to shut up. It just proves the point that government shills want to muzzle anyone speaking out against them.
BTW, the IC didn’t become good overnight just becuse Trump was elected.
Do not put words in my mouth that I never uttered. I never said I “trusted” the government. But I did work for NSA and you have no idea what you are talking about - other than the words the MSN put there.
You know more details about the legal system and the laws he broke as whistleblowing. I can’t comment on what would have happened to him if he went some more legal way. At the end, both things are true. He broke laws that were there to fight enemies and protect our own. Yet he exposed a very corrupt government using laws against the true owners of this places, Us, the People. I think that is quite a shade of gray.
Well we are just going to get into a circular argument. Of course I can’t know what’s going on at secret agencies because they’re secret.
And they are secret for the public good. But the public can and will never know if it is or not.
True, during war the military must maintain secrecy, but with the IC, the US is always at war and secrecy is always justified (in secret) by the experts.
Stop putting out that nonsense that 95% are good. We’re talking about secret agencies that have a unique ability to cover their tracks. The public can’t exactly do an open investigation on them.
If 95% are good at the alphabets, prove it. Saying that we haven’t had a terrorist attack doesn’t mean that extra billions spent actually did anything because you can’t really do a prospective analysis. Look at the “war on drugs” . Since 1970 after the CSA we have spent billions and there is more drug trafficking and overdoses than ever. What, we need to spend even more? Sounds a lot like the war on poverty arguments. But, I do suppose these proud patriots need their pensions too.
Taking a government agent’s word on blind faith doesn’t cut it anymore. Secrecy breeds corruption.
You are just digging your hole deeper in regard to NSA and Eddie Snowjob. The MSN lies about DJT, but you must imagine it suddenly tells the truth about Eddie. Stay out of it unless you have some actual knowledge, else you just end up insulting the rest of us who do.
Very well done!
What he may have ‘exposed’ wrt domestic spying abuse came out independently in the Trump Mueller fiasco.
This is important along I think with some other things to recollect. When we see it across the timeline I think its going to be staggering what we learn "they" were doing.
It is one of the reasons extreme genuine panic set in after HRC unexpectedly lost. The folks in the IC did some pondering an queries on their system and discovered blue team had been out flanked by a low tech red team relying on trade craft rather than technology. Now red team gets to be in charge of blue teams tools
There is more but it all points to a vast network of corruption spanning throughout the whole of the government, military, big industry, big tech, the media, and the financial services industry (Wall Street Brokerage houses), hospitality/gaming. Rewarding blue team members - replacing red team members
Grumpy, your post deserves a reply. I do have a life outside of the inter web so sorry it’s delayed. To answer your 95% question requires informing you how big the IC community really is, and maybe even some not taught reasoning behind certain branches of government as well.
The IC community consisted of tens of thousands of operators, analysts, engineers and developers, testers, acquisition specialists and more. These are the folks who build hardware and software that collect, sort, analyze, and disseminate the vital intel our warriors use to go down range after bad targets. The IC community was born out of WWII to help us prevent, and if needed fight and win wars with minimal loss of American lives in battle. It has evolved over decades as technology has evolved and truthfully it’s a task to keep up. Our enemies are always advancing despite treaties to the otherwise and we have to be prepared if we plan to avoid the next 911.
Many of the three letter agencies (though not all) folks here criticize for not being constitutional contribute to the the national defense and the IC support of that. As an example, NGA aka NIMA was born out of the military need for accurate mapping so artillery fire could be more effective. Today it supports much more as you can imagine what a smart bomb needs to hit a small target and not hurt troops just around the corner.
So I can easily say that with 10’s of thousands across the country doing their part in protecting our warriors and our nation, even a thousand assholes playing politics with these tools can create dangers and abuses, and be only 1%, much less 5% of the IC community.
I am critical of cops with bad shoots or getting off shooting dogs for no reason, but I know it’s a small percentage of cops that are giving a larger community a bad rap. It’s the same here. If the obama appointed chief of NSA wants to misuse a tool designed to find terrorists by employing it against Americans, you don’t blame the IC for that. You get the right folks in to investigate and you send the criminal packing or to jail.
I hope I’ve explained it better to you. I am tired of the ad hominem.
I was referring to people in Congress, and the DOJ, who are supposed to listen to and protect whistleblowers - instead of just blowing them OFF.
I wonder what that is. It’s 1.5 hrs - is it the Snowden film? Wow. Thanks if so. Saving for later watch.
No, it’s the documentary about William Binney.
Thanks. I don’t remember who he was.
He was a NSA whistleblower who went through sheer hell for doing what he felt was his duty as an American who had sworn to support and defend the Constitution.
You have no idea what I ‘imagine’ or believe. Unlike a lot of people here, I do NOT believe that all of the IC and the FBI are totally corrupt - I’ve stated before that I believe there are thousands of good, patriotic people working in these agencies. I’ve had the honor of personally knowing several of them myself and been aware of others and their stories.
But corrupt people in powerful and influential positions have created an atmosphere and precedent that discourages the good people - in fact, terrorizes them! - from coming forth with what they’ve seen and know is absolutely WRONG. And the people who created that atmosphere are EVERY BIT AS GUILTY as your ‘traitor’ Snowden is - in the long run, probably more guilty.
Snowden was a young and much more fragile man than Binney, or Drake, or the others whose lives were almost destroyed by the same crap that we’ve seen going on in other areas of government. I don’t know what was in his head, and I don’t condone everything that he did; but I know he was probably smart enough to study up on what had happened to others who may have decided to blow a whistle - and that would unhinge just about anybody.
Chances are better than even he did it for money from his Chinese handlers. You know nothing about NSA and quit lumping them all in one pot. Get back to me when you’ve worked for NSA for some years.
My post obviously did NOT ‘lump them all in one pot’.
You appear to have an agenda, and respond to posts very selectively.
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