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Snowden launches media tour ahead of book release
The Hill ^ | 09/14/19 | John Bowden

Posted on 09/14/2019 6:36:46 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

Edward Snowden will join two U.S. news shows in the coming days to promotes the release of his memoir.

Snowden, the 36-year-old former intelligence analyst who was responsible for leaking information about the National Security Agency's global and domestic surveillance programs, currently lives in Russia after he applied for political asylum following he fled from the U.S.

He is set to join both "CBS This morning" and MSNBC's Brian Williams on Monday, where Snowden will face questions about his 2013 disclosure of leaked documents as well as his book, "Permanent Record," set to be published on Sept. 17.

"Edward Snowden, the man who risked everything to expose the US government’s system of mass surveillance, reveals for the first time the story of his life, including how he helped to build that system and what motivated him to try to bring it down," his publisher said last month.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


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To: Jamestown1630

So well said.


21 posted on 09/14/2019 8:59:07 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Jamestown1630

I’m not nearly senior enough to clean up any illegal stuff going on in Washington, but I also will never commit espionage against my country. You don’t get that Snowden didn’t just release the knowledge of illegal domestic survellience. He stole pretty much everything he could download. That’s the mark of a traitor, not a patriot, though the left media would love that you think otherwise.


22 posted on 09/14/2019 9:06:20 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Fungi

Snowden was a whistleblower. He did violate the law and the establishment wants you to focus on this fact.

The NSA and intel agencies are violating people’s 4th amendment rights everyday. They are concerned with and are intent on punishing anyone that criticizes the government.

Snowden is not a threat to out liberties and he has provided sunshine. The IC is illegal corrupt and very dangerous to everyone that takes their freedom seriously.


23 posted on 09/14/2019 9:06:28 PM PDT by grumpygresh
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To: Yaelle

No, not at all, unless you approve of one crime to counter another.


24 posted on 09/14/2019 9:08:27 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: grumpygresh

I refer you to 22.

The IC is working hard to provide our warriors with the info they need to conduct their missions and come home safe.

The political and the corrupt, like any other profession, give the 95% a bad name, and they should be held accountable.


25 posted on 09/14/2019 9:16:57 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: yesthatjallen

At first I was mostly convinced that what he did was right.

Now?

I’m *completely* convinced.


26 posted on 09/14/2019 9:24:27 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Magnum44

You should read the code of the programs he exposed. It changed my mind. It made me realize why be went to China then Russia. Really get the vault 7 drops read just the comments and user documents if you not software savvy. I doubt you’ll come away thinking he a hero but for me it made aware it’s way more complicated. Obama Brennen Comey way more culpable


27 posted on 09/14/2019 10:16:30 PM PDT by datricker (Cut Taxes Repeal ACA Deport DACA - Americans First, Build the Wall, Lock her up MAGA!)
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To: Magnum44

But it’s okay if the government spies on us. I see. You’ve convinced me Ed did the right thing. I don’t think you get it. How out of control our spooks are.


28 posted on 09/14/2019 10:23:18 PM PDT by datricker (Cut Taxes Repeal ACA Deport DACA - Americans First, Build the Wall, Lock her up MAGA!)
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To: Magnum44; Jamestown1630

Whistleblowing is usually breaking some law, especially according to the corrupt. It would be great to have a world in pure black or white, but this is the only world we have for now.


29 posted on 09/14/2019 11:34:41 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: M. Thatcher

He revealed essential information to the American public. He was really one of the first to pull back the curtain on the deep state.


No an No.
Everything that constitutes the “curtain” you mention was already in the public domain. He just popularized it. Had you gone to your local library you could have found all of it.

He was also one of many that wrote books about NSA. He just capitalized on his media-created fame. And now again.

He was a traitor of the first order, revealing to the Chinese, then to the Russians, and later to Iran NSA’s cryptologic Methods and Means - these are the essentials for collecting intel on foreign actors and nations, now made useless, worse people were killed because of these revelations.

There are many in and out of the Intel community that would kill him out of hand, if presented with that opportunity. Worship and support him at your own peril.


30 posted on 09/15/2019 12:31:02 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Flick Lives

You learned nothing from Snowjob’s revelations” that was not already in the public domain and had been for over 50 years.


31 posted on 09/15/2019 12:33:26 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Jamestown1630

You have no idea of what your are talking about - NSA is not what you imagine, nor is it part of what you call “not working and dirty”. If NSA is not working as it should that is due to people like Snowjob, Eddie Snowjob is a self-loathing, willful America-hating traitor.


32 posted on 09/15/2019 12:40:34 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: yesthatjallen

Well, because Snowden exposed our government’s surveillance programs, ISIS terrorists are able to cover up their tracks


33 posted on 09/15/2019 12:46:42 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: grumpygresh

Snowden was a whistleblower. He did violate the law and the establishment wants you to focus on this fact.


No not a whistle-blower, not a mere ‘lawbreaker’, but a traitor. He wants you to believe that the stuff the media popularized was not already in the public domain and not look at the real damage he did nor the lives lost due to his betrayal. That same media, which excoriates DJT on an hourly basis, is somehow truthful about what Snowjob did and what it meant.

Snowjob has already cost lives of dedicated US citizens working for NSA overseas. s/ Some ray of “sunshine”! I’m sure the families of the dead would cheer their losses. /s Losses seems to have assuaged your feelings toward NSA and the difficult and dangerous work they perform to keep all of us safe. Just stop talking about something you know nothing about and are likely to never know, and be glad for it.


34 posted on 09/15/2019 12:55:24 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: datricker
Obama Brennen Comey way more culpable

no disagreement there.

35 posted on 09/15/2019 3:51:50 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Fungi

Yep - can’t prosecute Snowden unless you throw away a LOT of keys for NSA and other Intel folks....


36 posted on 09/15/2019 3:56:52 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: datricker

One crime of traitorous espionage doesn’t fix another crime of illegal spying. They are both wrongs.


37 posted on 09/15/2019 3:58:22 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Yaelle

No, there is actually a legal process. People going outside of that process are breaking the laws. It doesn’t help when the system is corrupt from above (Clapper, Brennan,etc) but those in the business go into the business very clearly understanding the obligations of protecting the sources and methods, and the consequences of willfully violating that obligation. Again, Snowden compromised sources and methods that made it harder to track terrorists, harder to prep our troops to go do their mission and come home safely, and make Americans at home less safe. Again, not the act of a hero or patriot. Who exactly did Snowden attempt to legally express his concerns to before he downloaded basically everything he could using his bosses stolen password?


38 posted on 09/15/2019 4:11:00 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Magnum44
Magnum, you bring up interesting points. Could he have gone to others if he thought the entire system was corrupt? Where did Epstein go to be protected? I actually asked a similar question in this thread about where the prison guards could have gone. Interesting comments.

If you don't trust anyone up the chain of command, where do you go? Now, that may be extreme paranoia but it's certainly not without precedent. Epstein is the case in point. Are whistleblowers really protected? Supposedly they are. No, unfortunately, there are still two tiers of justice in this land and I'm afraid any low level whistleblower would have just faded into obscurity...or worse.

All the political blowhards always use the phrase "be held accountable," but very very few rarely are.

I've been ambivalent about Snowden since it came to the scene. I was working at Ft. Meade when it happened (other side of the base). Interesting, when you talked with people liberals and conservatives alike, you really couldn't guess which side of the tracks they came down on regarding Snowden and his whistleblowing. Could he have done differently? Maybe, but how? The only reasonable answer that I have heard since then is that he could have gone to a cleared lawyer in the DC area.

Just as an aside, have they stopped the illegal snooping on Americans? I honestly do not know.
39 posted on 09/15/2019 5:52:50 AM PDT by tenger (Why only 435 representatives for 310 million people? Why did they stop raising the number in 1929?)
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To: Magnum44

In principle I agree Snowden would be dead if he blew the whistle and stayed here. It’s not just spying. They built and have blackmail database to subvert political enemies. Brennen brought in hackers in to the CIA they have adapted and expanded the stuff we have been using in the war on terror to use on the people of this nation. More than likely they use it to give insider info on stock trades to allies enemies go see Lois Lerner. I’ve gone back and forth on Snowden. I think he is both 1. A moron 2. The exception that proves the rule


40 posted on 09/15/2019 6:34:32 AM PDT by datricker (Cut Taxes Repeal ACA Deport DACA - Americans First, Build the Wall, Lock her up MAGA!)
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