Posted on 08/21/2019 12:06:22 AM PDT by robowombat
Hobbled NRA shows strength with Trump
The National Rifle Association (NRA) may be down, but it’s not out — and the group appears to have been successful in lobbying the most important player in the gun control debate.
After saying earlier this month that he wants “very meaningful background checks” on gun purchasers, President Trump has since changed his tune. He argued Tuesday that the U.S. already has “very strong background checks” and that officials need to be wary of a potential “slippery slope” where “everything gets taken away.”
Democrats attribute that shift, and the language he used, to the work of the NRA.
“My expectations that the president will break with the gun lobby and support bipartisan gun reforms were always low, but the speed with which he retreated on the statements he made earlier this month has been remarkable,” Rep. Don Beyer (D-Va.) said in a statement to The Hill on Tuesday.
“The NRA is losing money and board members to corruption and mismanagement, but they clearly still have a vise grip on the president,” he added.
The NRA in recent months has seen a decline in membership, a leadership exodus, allegations of misspending and a power struggle among its top ranks. On Tuesday, three additional NRA officials reportedly resigned.
But in the wake of this month’s mass shootings in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio, that left 31 dead, the NRA has flexed its muscles.
In the days after Trump offered his initial support for background checks legislation, he faced intense lobbying from gun rights groups. During a recent 10-day stay at his golf resort in Bedminster, N.J., Trump reportedly spoke to Wayne LaPierre, the NRA’s CEO, according to The New York Times.
Trump later called LaPierre on Tuesday to tell him that universal background checks were off the table and that he wanted to focus on mental health care funding and prosecuting gun crime, according to The Atlantic.
The NRA tweeted a statement from LaPierre confirming the conversation.
"I spoke to the president today. We discussed the best ways to prevent these types of tragedies. @realDonaldTrump is a strong #2A President and supports our Right to Keep and Bear Arms!" LaPierre said, referring to the Second Amendment.
The White House pushed back on The Atlantic's article.
"The president has not mentioned supporting universal background checks. Meaningful background checks remain on the table. The President and Wayne did speak today as the NRA’s tweet confirms," a White House official said in an email.
Trump's shift took shape on Sunday. He told reporters that a lot of discussions on gun reforms were happening on Capitol Hill but also focused on mental health.
“I don’t want people to forget that this is a mental health problem. I don’t want them to forget that, because it is. It's a mental health problem,” Trump told reporters before boarding Marine One. “It's the people that pull the trigger; it's not the gun that pulls the trigger.”
On Tuesday, he warned about the “slippery slope” of gun laws, language closely mirroring the NRA’s long-held position that even modest gun control regulations would eventually lead to stricter ones.
Those types of remarks have deflated the hopes of gun reform advocates such as Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.).
“I did talk to him about a week ago. In that conversation, he expressed support for working together with Republicans and Democrats to come up with a background checks bill,” Murphy said Tuesday on MSNBC. “I’m sure the NRA and its allies are putting a lot of pressure on the president to back off.”
How Trump handles this latest push for gun legislation will be a test of his character and where his loyalties lie, according to some Democrats.
“The president has to decide what’s more important to him, saving lives or being there for the gun lobby,” Rep. Ted Deutch (D-Fla.) said Tuesday in a phone interview. “There’s just no other explanation. If he can’t stand up to the NRA, he’s a coward and he should be ashamed of himself.”
Congressional Democrats say they have been down this road before with the president.
In February 2018, after the deadly school shooting in Parkland, Fla., Trump expressed support for background checks legislation. But after the NRA intervened, Trump quickly pivoted to promoting tougher school security measures.
Deutch recalled a meeting in the White House following Parkland when Trump “pointed his finger at the Republicans in the room and said the only reason that we hadn’t passed background checks is because they’re terrified of the NRA.”
“I believe he called them cowards,” Deutch said. “If the president walks back from the statements he made after El Paso and Dayton to take up background checks, then he’s the biggest coward in the government.”
Murphy said he’s still holding out hope that Trump will pursue screening for gun purchasers.
“Until I hear directly from him, I'm not willing to concede that history repeated itself and that he has walked away from the commitment he made,” Murphy said in a statement Tuesday. “But it's time for Republicans and President Trump to decide whose side they’re on. Are they going to stand with the 90 percent of Americans who want universal background checks, or are they going to once again kowtow to the desires of the gun lobby?”
Other Democrats are much more downbeat about the likelihood of any gun bills getting through Congress, particularly the GOP-controlled Senate and Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).
“Trump and McConnell are both in lockstep with the NRA, and they will not want [Trump] to do anything. And much of the Trump base is against any changes,” Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.), a senior member of the House Judiciary Committee, said during an appearance on CNN.
The House Judiciary Committee will return to Washington from the August recess five days early, on Sept. 4, to mark up measures prohibiting high-capacity magazines, banning people convicted of hate crimes from owning guns, and supporting states that approve “red flag” laws to confiscate firearms from people deemed a threat to themselves or others.
Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is expected to bundle several of the guns bills together and push the legislation through the House after lawmakers return on Sept. 9. That effort is designed to ramp up political pressure on Trump and McConnell.
Cohen predicted the gun bills “won’t go anywhere.”
Asked what it will take to push gun reforms through Congress despite opposition from the NRA, Cohen pointed to voters casting their ballots for new leaders in November 2020.
“It takes a new president. It takes a new Senate majority leader,” he said. “It takes the people of the country coming to grips with the fact that we have a leader who is not capable of leading this country.”
Bye, Wayne, and leave the expensive suits behind. They’re company property.
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Every purchase through an FFL undergoes a background check, beginning with filling out ATF Form 4473, and positive ID check, and subsequent phone call to the ATF. Falsifying anything on Form 4473 is considered a FELONY.
Altho I believe in the NRA, until Wayne LaPierre is thrown out, I refuse to send them any more money for membership or extra support. That crook has got to be thrown out.
The NRA is VERY lucky. If a Democrat was in the White House or if this was any other RINO president, they’d be destroyed. Trump is helping keep the NRA on life support. Let’s hope they take this opportunity to clean house.
When did you discover that Wayne was a crook? Who has the proof?
I don't know, I'm just axing.
I've been an NRA member since I got out of the US Army in 1962, I've not always been satisfied with their actions, BUT, without the NRA protecting my rights, I wouldn't be able to carry my pistol when I walk my dog.
I'll take Wayne and his suits until the NRA members vote him out.
BINGO.
ALSO, FOX just reported “the White House”
said universal background checks are not off the table.
What’s the real story here? I heard Trump myself last night say it was.
BINGO.
ALSO, FOX just reported “the White House”
said universal background checks are not off the table.
What’s the real story here? I heard Trump myself last night say it was.
“..Hobbled NRA ...”
“Hobbled”? Chuckle...
There’s over 6 million of us, we vote, and we’re a small army.
We’re NOT “hobbled”. Just sweeping out the kitchen at the moment.
“ALSO, FOX just reported “the White House”
said universal background checks are not off the table.”
That would be Jarad and Ivanka although I thought she was busy meddling with the Dept. of Labor setting up new visas for tradesmen.
Correct, and even this is utterly unconstitutional. The founders did not specify the people have the right to keep and bare arms but only after a background check.
Now is the time to go on the offensive. At times like this we should be pointing out the tens of thousands of military machine guns possessed by dozens of non military federal agents such as the EPA. Why does the EPA need military weapons, why does the department of education need military weapons, Why does the "F" in BATFE even exist? Can you imagine a federal bureau of media and speech? Of course not.
We need to consider banning any non military federal agency from possessing a firearm of any type much less military weaponry and equipment. The protective work of the secret service can be done by private civilian security firms. When the FBI needs to conduct an arrest that can be done with the assistance of local sheriffs and police departments. EPA and Department of education tactical units? Of course it is utterly absurd for these agencies to even have police power much less be armed in any capacity.
The Constitution absolutely does not provide the federal government with the right to create dozens of military equipped federal agencies. It's wrong, and it's one of the many reasons we face the increasing danger of abuse of power from the federal government. The people have the right to keep and bare arms but outside of the military the government absolutely does not.
The NRA is NOT ‘HOBBLED’......................
Ok
lol, sorry my rant was not really directed at you.
They still don’t get it. The six million members of the NRA are a significant voter block, to be sure, but the number of gun owners who will listen to them and vote accordingly is far, far greater than membership. If the NRA went away tomorrow they’d all still be out there.
Amen.
The same people who excoriate the media daily (and rightfully so) now tell us we need to believe the media.
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