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Why Does The Shroud of Turin Still Exist?
Townhall.com ^ | July 28, 2019 | Myrah Kahn Adams

Posted on 07/28/2019 6:02:04 AM PDT by Kaslin

In an imaginary “ranking” of Christian topics that elicit the most fervent discussions, Jesus Christ is No. 1. But near the top is the Shroud of Turin — believed by millions of Christians to be the authentic burial cloth of Jesus. This “ranking” was inspired by you — Townhall readers who wrote over 500 impassioned comments in response to my July 21 piece, “Shroud of Turin: New Test Concludes 1988 ‘Medieval Hoax’ Dating Was a Fraud.”

I purposely read all your comments to gain insight into my role as an adviser and fundraiser for a groundbreaking exhibition about the Shroud of Turin at the Museum of the Bible in Washington D.C. This spectacular museum, among the largest and highest rated in the city, is located only three blocks from the Capitol. And just prior to the January 20, 2021, presidential inauguration is when this high-tech Shroud exhibit is scheduled to open.

Threaded throughout hundreds of your responses about all aspects of the Shroud was one overarching theme summarized by these three comments:

 “Anyone who requires physical evidence to underpin their faith doesn’t understand the concept of faith.”

“JESUS CHRIST died for all. HE is what is important. Making such a fuss about this piece of cloth is a distraction from HIS work of SALVATION.”

“I respectfully submit that the only ‘relic’ which really matters is the one which was left us on that first Easter morning: The tomb is empty! He is Risen! He is Risen indeed! Alleluia!”

Of course, “He is Risen” is also the foundation of my Christian faith, (made slightly more complicated by having been born Jewish). But I feel compelled to discuss and explore the comment that reads in part, “…such a fuss about this piece of cloth...”

And my response is simple: The Shroud of Turin exists because HE exists. An answer that echoes what God said to Moses, “I Am Who I Am. Say this to the people of Israel: I Am has sent me to you” (Exodus 3:14).

Thus, the existence of the Shroud of Turin raises two questions that I will attempt to address: First, what exactly is the Shroud? And second, a deeper dive into “Why does the cloth exist?”

The Shroud of Turin is a 14.5-by-3.5-foot linen cloth with a linear front to back mirror image of a crucified man. The Shroud has the distinction of being the most studied artifact in the world, yet the cloth’s numerous mysteries remained unexplained by modern science.

At this moment the Shroud lies in a fireproof box in the Cathedral of St. John the Baptist in Turin, Italy, as it has continuously since 1578. (But secretly relocated between 1939 and 1946 when Italian authorities feared Hitler was seeking possession.)

Dating the Shroud has been controversial and the subject of my July 21 piece.

Among Shroud historians, there is no dispute that in 1352, over 200 years before the Shroud was housed in Turin, Geoffrey DeCharney displayed the cloth in Lirey, France marking the beginning of the Shroud’s documented "modern" dating.

There is also much circumstantial Shroud evidence through art, artifacts, and coins that pre-dates 1352. Moreover, scientifically verified botanical evidence found on the cloth in the form of pollen, dust, flowers, and even the weave and type of linen traces the Shroud back to first-century Jerusalem.

The cloth with its mysterious properties has survived wars, invasions and the ravages of time including numerous fires — most recently in 1997 at its home cathedral in Turin.

Most harrowing was the 1532 fire in Chambéry, France. Miraculously the entire cloth was not destroyed but left those distinctive linear markings along both sides of the Shroud that we see today. Hard to imagine, but the linen cloth was stored in a silver box, folded in 48 layers, when drops of molten silver burned through the cloth’s outer folded edges.

The point is, against all the odds, the Shroud exists. And, as stated earlier, because He exists. There is also a significant Bible-based reason found in the Gospel of John known as “Doubting Thomas” (John 20:24-31).

But first, a “guest” who will explain this passage needs a proper introduction:

It turns out that the many Townhall readers who commented about not needing the Shroud’s “physical evidence to underpin their faith,” represent a large swath of Christian believers. I learned this when asking Russ Breault— my fellow Shroud exhibit team colleague, and a world-renowned Shroud expert and speaker — if he had experienced similar attitudes after over 30 years of hosting his popular “Shroud Encounters” to sell-out crowds.

Breault replied: 

“I get that statement all the time!  When someone says, ‘I don't need the Shroud for my faith,’ I usually say, ‘That is fantastic!  But that doesn't mean the Shroud was not meant for someone else.’ ”

Breault continued:   “In the Doubting Thomas story, Jesus pronounced a blessing on those who ‘believe yet have not seen,’ but Jesus did not condemn Thomas for his unbelief. In fact, a week after the Resurrection, Jesus appeared a second time, and the first person he spoke to was Thomas, who was not there to witness Jesus’ first appearance. Jesus then quotes Thomas' words back to him, ‘Thomas, thrust your hand into my side and place your fingers into my nail wounds and be not faithless but believe.’

At this point, Thomas — forever known as "Doubting Thomas" — makes the strongest profession of faith in the New Testament saying, "My Lord and my God."  Then Jesus pronounced a blessing on those who can believe without seeing.  So we are blessed if we can believe without seeing, but we are not cursed if we can't get there without some additional evidence. 

Therefore, perhaps the Shroud is a silent witness to the world offering all of humanity the same opportunity Jesus gave to Thomas. In some proverbial sense by looking at the Shroud, we too can thrust our hand into His side and place our fingers into His nail wound and find our faith in the process.”  

Thank you, Russ!  And now my final thoughts for Townhall commenters.

If blessed with great faith, you are free to ignore or downplay the image on the Shroud showing Christ’s great suffering and victory over death. Yet, take comfort in knowing that the Shroud is there to supplement or reinforce the faith of others while potentially witnessing to the ever-increasing number of Doubting Thomases found throughout the world.  

In the end, I believe that the Shroud exists as proof of God’s greatest gift to mankind —the Lord Jesus Christ — who lives and reigns forever and ever. Alleluia! 

(Now, let the comments begin!)


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To: MHGinTN
Mu hands were fast and dexterous even as a little kid.

Must be a handicap to have two right hands. If you had used a left your handiwork would have been at least a little sinister . . . ous (heh heh).

961 posted on 08/01/2019 9:01:56 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: ealgeone

Romanists do not have a true gospel to begin with, my FRiend.
Anyone who thinks that you can have a saving faith but then lose it necessarily subsribes to a false “gospel.:


962 posted on 08/01/2019 9:22:00 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Mark17; Elsie

I am old and hideous looking, so it doesn’t matter. ;-D


963 posted on 08/01/2019 9:56:46 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: imardmd1

LOL ... would that my mind were as quick as my hands then.


964 posted on 08/01/2019 10:52:01 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Mark17
cuz, after all, we are saved.

Saved by what?

965 posted on 08/01/2019 10:58:52 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Prov 24: Do not fret because of evildoers. Do not associate with those given to change.)
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To: GingisK

I’m old and broken down, so it does matter? Growing old is not for sissies, eh?


966 posted on 08/01/2019 11:05:48 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: imardmd1

I’d give my right arm to be ambidextrous.


967 posted on 08/01/2019 12:11:49 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; grey_whiskers

968 posted on 08/01/2019 12:13:07 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; grey_whiskers; papertyger; metmom; ealgeone; MHGinTN
Been following this, and it seems as though y'all missing the point. I heard nothing about being saved by this scapulator thing. From the wording it only looks like its only claimed to just be a firewall.

Has this thing been checked out with Norton or McAfee?

969 posted on 08/01/2019 12:17:08 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Mark17

Maybe that’s just shorthand for “LC” (??).


970 posted on 08/01/2019 12:22:50 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Elsie; grey_whiskers; papertyger; metmom; ealgeone; MHGinTN
>> However, it does not say wearing the scapular is what saves.
That is just a simple literary fact. <<

It's also a very obvious fact from visible examination that the Shroud of Turin couldn't save anyone from fire. Maybe somebody forgot to tack a scapular on its storage container. But now they're not counting on a scapular for it. They have it hidden in a fireproof box, or so I thought someone said upstream on this thread. But maybe it could save you from X-rays . . .

Maybe Mary wasn't around when the fire started . . . hmmmm.

971 posted on 08/01/2019 12:46:50 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

A firewall...that’s good!


972 posted on 08/01/2019 1:31:11 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: GingisK; Elsie
That is why we get to have so many denominations, and still stand proudly shoulder to shoulder as Americans. I love you, babe.

Babe??????

Elsie??????

973 posted on 08/01/2019 1:44:40 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Kaslin
The Shroud of Turin: Evidence for Everything?

You will surely be interested in this, and I wish I had it at hand a couple of days ago when you first put up this post.

And before the thread turned into another Freekin' Freekin' Theological Brawl.TM Mostly, I'm adding it to the thread as part of my madcap, makeshift informaiton storage system. The best way I can re-find this article is probably bu searching for it in Free Republic.

My own bookmark system is so useless. Everything crammed chaotically into every category.

If my brain looks like my catch-as-catch-can external info retrieval schemes, God help me!!

974 posted on 08/01/2019 2:56:02 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Genius is of small use to a woman who does not know how to do her hair." - Edith Wharton)
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To: GingisK
👍
975 posted on 08/01/2019 3:10:36 PM PDT by Mark17 (With Jesus, there is more wealth in my soul, than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: imardmd1
Romanists do not have a true gospel to begin with, my FRiend. Anyone who thinks that you can have a saving faith but then lose it necessarily subsribes to a false “gospel.:

Amen bro. My question would be, where does all the false catholic doctrine come from? Nimrod?

976 posted on 08/01/2019 3:40:58 PM PDT by Mark17 (With Jesus, there is more wealth in my soul, than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: DungeonMaster
cuz, after all, we are saved.

Saved by what?

Well, when I was a catholic, I believed we were saved by baptism, Sacraments, good works, and membership in the “one true church.” Since I am now, an ex catholic, I don’t believe that false doctrine anymore.

977 posted on 08/01/2019 3:51:52 PM PDT by Mark17 (With Jesus, there is more wealth in my soul, than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Interesting article! The term 'radiance' is spot on. Did the face of Moses radiate after neing in God's Presence? The spacetime implications of energy source are iof great interest to me since I am convinced there are spatio-temporal variable coordinates we cannot perceive currently, that exist as real as sunshice. Some of those coordinate limits will available to us when Jesus returns in the first Heaven to collect His Body of Christ and return to the Father's House. Why do I say that? Because John wrote that when He appears we shall see Him as He really is now in His glorified body, for we shall be LIKE HIM in that expanded coordinate state.

There are lots of examples of those coordinate states scattered throughout the Bible, Old and New Testament.

Is the Shroud the real burial wrapping of Jesus my Lord? I cannot prove it but I believe it, even as that belief is not required for my membership in His family.

978 posted on 08/01/2019 4:14:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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Oh wow! ‘sunshice’? LOL sunshine was intended from these old tired fingers.


979 posted on 08/01/2019 4:16:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Mark17

LOL!
Freedom in Christ feels pretty good doesn’t it?
Now about my Mojito....


980 posted on 08/01/2019 4:37:01 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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