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Thomas Fires ‘Opening Salvo’ For SCOTUS To Overturn Own Precedents
talkingpointsmemo.com ^ | 6/17/2019 | Josh Kovensky

Posted on 06/17/2019 10:00:06 PM PDT by bitt

In a sneaky Monday concurrence, Justice Clarence Thomas laid the groundwork for the Supreme Court to overturn its own longstanding precedents in what may mark the beginning of efforts to destroy numerous landmark court decisions from the past decades.

The concurring opinion came in Gamble v. United States, a case regarding double jeopardy that Thomas used as a springboard to argue that the Supreme Court should review — and overturn — settled law where it is found to be “demonstrably erroneous.”

Constitutional law scholars told TPM that Thomas appeared to use the concurrence to signal to his fellow justices — and the wider public — that the new conservative majority is interested in overturning years of settled law.

“People can legitimately fear that this opinion provides a kind of intellectual cover and justification for the over-rulings that this new conservative majority may be about to engage in,” Samuel Bagenstos, a University of Michigan law professor and former Obama Administration Justice Department official, told TPM.

Melissa Murray, a professor at NYU Law, described it as an “opening salvo for those on the court…to take a more permissive view of stare decisis that is not nearly as deferential as what we’ve seen.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: gamble; justicethomas; scotus; scotusprecedents
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1 posted on 06/17/2019 10:00:06 PM PDT by bitt
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2 posted on 06/17/2019 10:00:24 PM PDT by bitt (I donate all my chips to erecting electric bleachers in Gitmo!)
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To: bitt

Yeah...that could go both ways...


3 posted on 06/17/2019 10:03:05 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: Flaming Conservative

That’s the point. Left-wingers rewrite the law with court decisions, then conservatives can’t undo that due to respect for stare decisis.

Once it gets to go both ways, we can undo the trainwreck of law foisted on us by lefties and blackmailed justices.


4 posted on 06/17/2019 10:07:15 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The Clinton Coup attempt was a worse attack on the USA than was 9/11)
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To: bitt

A worthwhile article on this topic by Amy Conan Barrett:

https://scholarship.law.nd.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4734&context=ndlr


5 posted on 06/17/2019 10:08:12 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: bitt

Why not tossed out ‘settled law’? The Obama judges care not one wit about objective law. They are like some hive mind where the ratcheting of Federal Power upward is the only consistent course of action.


6 posted on 06/17/2019 10:14:36 PM PDT by Nateman (If the left is not screaming, you are doing it wrong.)
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To: bitt

I like to poke fun at the liberals about this subject. I like to mention that at one time, the Dred Scott decision, and Plessy vs. Ferguson were considered settled law. They were Supreme Court decisions which created precedent. Thus, per stare decisis, they should never have been reconsidered.


7 posted on 06/17/2019 10:19:49 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Bowers vs. Hardwick (upholding a state sodomy ban) was once settled law. The liberal/left had no qualms about overturning that precedent. It’s always “stare decisis as a brake on thee but not on me.”


8 posted on 06/17/2019 10:25:13 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: Nateman

We are living in judicial tyranny. Separation of powers is a figament of our imagination. When a lower court ruling can hold the entire country hostage, it’s time to stop the We The People sabotage. IMO.


9 posted on 06/17/2019 10:26:14 PM PDT by Equine1952 (Get yourself a ticket on a common mans train of thought. ))
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To: irishjuggler

Yes, another good case to point out. Stare decisis meant nothing to the liberals, if it does not support a liberal cause.


10 posted on 06/17/2019 10:50:00 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: thoughtomator

The switch to reliance upon case law that occurred long ago has never made sense to me. Taking the current system of legal precedent and then adding stare decisis on top seems to have created a one-way ratchet that serves to compound and lock in judicial error. It’s crazy to place so much reliance upon the original case, to the point that a wrongly decided case can become unchallengeable and therefore cast that error in stone. Then, that erroneous decision becomes the foundation for arguing future cases and further propagating the original error. That’s just nuts.


11 posted on 06/18/2019 1:18:01 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.`)
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To: bitt

Stare Decisis

Pura mierda


12 posted on 06/18/2019 1:19:35 AM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: bitt

Welp. There goes Heller. It was nice while it lasted.


13 posted on 06/18/2019 1:32:18 AM PDT by Lazamataz (We can be called a racist and we'll just smile. Because we don't care.)
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To: bitt

Imagine how national business could change if Wickard v. Filburn went the way of the Dodo.

The purpose of the Commerce Clause, I believe, was to “keep regular” any commerce between the Several States. That suggests that a business must cross state lines before Uncle Sugar even gets to look at it. A farmer growing wheat to feed his own chickens does NOT impact the price of wheat on the world market and Congress can damn well “leave us alone” on the issue. Again.


14 posted on 06/18/2019 2:25:20 AM PDT by DNME (The only solution to a BAD guy with a gun is a GOOD guy with a gun.)
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To: thoughtomator

And then leftists overturn those and it’s back and forth until it’s messed up so much there is no law.


15 posted on 06/18/2019 5:17:36 AM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill

Are you going to assert with a straight face that we genuinely have the rule of law now?


16 posted on 06/18/2019 5:25:05 AM PDT by thoughtomator (The Clinton Coup attempt was a worse attack on the USA than was 9/11)
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To: thoughtomator

There are laws for the little people.


17 posted on 06/18/2019 5:40:02 AM PDT by bgill
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To: bitt

The best opinion in this case is the brilliant Gorsuch dissent trying to make prohibitions on double jeopardy actually mean something taking judicial notice of a fact we all know - the US criminal code has grown to the point that every adult American can be prosecuted for some violation or other.


18 posted on 06/18/2019 5:50:44 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: bitt

Wow! This could get very, very interesting....


19 posted on 06/18/2019 7:26:53 AM PDT by Bigg Red (WWG1WGA)
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I've been posting this on all these threads about Thomas' concurrence. Though this is only a footnote, it is more significant, I think than his comments about stare decisis:
20 posted on 06/18/2019 11:16:38 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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