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CLIMATE ADVICE 'Are carbon offsets a scam?' (making a mint off the hoax)
Yale Climate Connections ^ | 5/05/19 | Sara Peach

Posted on 06/09/2019 1:19:35 PM PDT by Libloather

**SNIP**

It depends. Some carbon-offset projects – which are supposed to compensate for the heat-trapping gases you release to the atmosphere by taking a plane trip, for example – are scams. In one notorious case, the Vatican was presented with offset certificates for millions of trees that were never planted.

Even if a project actually exists, offsets have the potential to go wrong in other ways. Say you’re promised that your purchase will help pay for a new wind farm, but then you learn that the wind farm was going to be built even without the help of offsets. You’d feel cheated, and rightly so. To truly compensate for your pollution, any offset project must be in addition to the normal course of business. For more on this problem and related complexities, see this NRDC overview.

To protect your wallet, you can buy offsets that have been authenticated by third-party certification programs, such as Verified Carbon Standard, Gold Standard, and Green-e Climate Standard. Those programs help confirm that projects actually exist and that you’re not wasting your money.

Some critics argue that offsets are the modern equivalent of “indulgences,” the practice of reducing punishment for sin that was commercialized and much-abused in the Middle Ages. I don’t buy that argument: The goal is to reduce the total amount of heat-trapping gases, and legitimate offset projects do that.

A more compelling criticism is that offsets often don’t address the root of the problem: the lack of cleaner transportation options. So far, the U.S. has largely chosen to build gas stations and airports rather than electric vehicle charging infrastructure and train stations. That makes it tough for most people to lighten their footprints.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carbon; climatechange; fake; fraud; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; greennewdeal; hoax; manbearpig; offsets; scam
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So if third-party certification programs don’t alleviate your fear of getting scammed, there’s another ethical option. The next time you take a trip, you could skip the offsets and donate an equivalent amount of money to a civic leader or organization working to make cleaner transportation options available to more people.

Problem solved. The socialist bartender hardest hit.

1 posted on 06/09/2019 1:19:35 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Like those Fake Medical Devices that cure dandruff to cancer


2 posted on 06/09/2019 1:23:26 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Libloather

Ya think?


3 posted on 06/09/2019 1:32:15 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: Libloather

And I thought Rome put an end to Letters of Indulgences?

like a couple of hundred years ago?


4 posted on 06/09/2019 1:33:14 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: Libloather

How about just planting more trees?

They absorb CO2 and release oxygen, It is photosynthesis.

We don’t need to kill industries. Just plant trees. Problem solved, if there is any.


5 posted on 06/09/2019 1:33:22 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: Libloather

:: the root of the problem: the lack of cleaner transportation options. ::

So, to assuage their guilt, everyone should move to large urban centers and utilize rail and bus systems. What is it with Fascists and public transportation? (Mussolini). Even today, Europeans will tell you how good and reliable their train systems are. Sheep.


6 posted on 06/09/2019 1:33:53 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (No dolphins were harmed in the making of this post. They enjoyed the rough handling.)
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To: Libloather

Does a bear...?


7 posted on 06/09/2019 1:34:37 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Libloather

They’ve always been a scam.


8 posted on 06/09/2019 1:44:09 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: MuttTheHoople

My thought, too when I read the headline.

You know it’s a scam when the EU weenies are using the “carbon tax” to milk the airlines and business jets (who already pay exorbitant fees to operate).


9 posted on 06/09/2019 1:44:56 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches, and get with what's real.)
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To: MuttTheHoople

Ya think?

People should post what they want, and write what they think — by all means. However, I can’t imagine anyone topping your post on this thread, no matter what they write.

“Ya think?” says it all. It really does.


10 posted on 06/09/2019 1:55:15 PM PDT by samtheman (To steal an election, who do you collude with? Russians in Russia or Mexicans in California?)
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To: Libloather
carboncreditcertificate
11 posted on 06/09/2019 2:15:11 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Libloather

i want to see the accounting for $16 trillion dollars of ecoscam


12 posted on 06/09/2019 2:19:17 PM PDT by TonytheTiger7777
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Is this a trick question??? Duhhhhhh


13 posted on 06/09/2019 2:19:48 PM PDT by TnTnTn
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To: Libloather

How many times have politicians (mostly Democrats) promised to solve a problem if we funded something?

War on drugs
War on poverty
War on crime
Fix infrastructure

Taxes raised, programs created yet every one of these problems grew in size.

Even if you believe in man-made climate change, why would you believe taxes can fix it?


14 posted on 06/09/2019 2:25:42 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-mob)
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To: Libloather

Rumor has it that bartender OAC wants to ban sodas. Drink TEA.

The fizz that bubbles up when you crack open a can of soda is carbon dioxide gas (CO2). Soft drink manufacturers add this tingling froth by forcing carbon dioxide and water into your soda at high pressures—up to 1,200 pounds per square inc


15 posted on 06/09/2019 2:39:42 PM PDT by hapnHal
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks Libloather. Al Gore gets carbon credits by promising not to fart.

16 posted on 06/09/2019 2:47:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Innovative

The same people are letting the forests burn rather than manage them properly.


17 posted on 06/09/2019 2:47:39 PM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: Libloather
The goal is to reduce the total amount of heat-trapping gases, and legitimate offset projects do that.

Really? How does that work?

If the author of this screed truly believes that gases trap heat (above what their physical properties would suggest), can he please explain the physics behind this? In all of the anthropogenic “global warming/climate change” fear mongering, I never see the fear mongers give a good solid physical mechanism for how CO2 causes more heat that can be explained by normal thermodynamic processes. I’ll bet that they don’t even have any kind of a science education that would enable them to even offer such an explanation.

And no, scientific papers that state “X is occurring because of global warming” do not, in fact, provide evidence of said “global warming.”

18 posted on 06/09/2019 3:03:19 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Libloather

Wenn die Münze im Kästlein klingt, die Seele in den Himmel springt.

19 posted on 06/09/2019 4:24:36 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ( Schumer delenda est.)
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To: Libloather

when I first heard of the carbon offsets scam, I thought of Angel on the Rockford Files. I can picture a scene where Angel says to Rockford “Jimmy! two words...carbon offsets!”


20 posted on 06/09/2019 4:49:57 PM PDT by isom35
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