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The Mall Meltdown Continues
WSJ ^ | June 3, 2019 7:00 a.m. ET | By Elizabeth Winkler

Posted on 06/03/2019 7:23:12 AM PDT by Red Badger

Mall-based retailers reported dismal earnings last week, reminding investors of the sector’s fundamental problems

Retailers’ earnings season has gone from bad to worse. The bleeding intensified last week, with shares of Abercrombie & Fitch plummeting 26% on Wednesday, the biggest percentage decline since the company went public. PVH Corp., owner of brands including Van Heusen, Tommy Hilfilger, and Calvin Klein, dropped 10% that day, too. On Thursday, women’s wear chain J.Jill was down a jaw-dropping 53% and on Friday, Gap Inc. slid 9%.

It is hard to miss what all of these retailers have in common: They are mall-based.

While retailers posted generally strong numbers in 2018, raising hopes of a retail renaissance, this year has seen a reversion to the pre-2018 trend: department stores and mall-based retailers giving up share to discount stores and e-commerce. The perceived renaissance now seems to have been largely a function of lean inventories, not an actual increase in demand. Now inventory is high again, and retailers are resorting to promotions.

Gap, for example, warned Friday that it may have to rely on promotional activity in coming months to move unsold merchandise off shelves. That will weigh on gross margins. The company, which posted its weakest quarterly sales in three years, has suffered not merely at its namesake brand, where comparable-store sales were down 10% for the quarter, but also at Old Navy, typically its best performer. Comparable-store sales there fell 1%. By comparison, in the same period last year they climbed 3%.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: malls; retail; shopping
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To: Red Badger

Mall troubles are likely related to the falling manufacturing centre. When the only jobs available are low paying service jobs, that’s income that is not available in terms of discretionary spending.


81 posted on 06/03/2019 8:25:57 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cultsther)
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To: Bayard

Bingo!................


82 posted on 06/03/2019 8:27:09 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: moovova

Are you talking about Eastland Mall? They had an ice skating rink on the bottom floor. I learned how to ice skate there and spent many weekends there- we were from SC so my parents would drive up for the weekend because it was a nice place to go and shop. My church would even bring our youth group up twice a year too. Last year I Googled it because my family was going to be coming through Charlotte and I wanted to take my daughter there to show her a part of my youth. When I saw pictures of what that mall had become I cried.


83 posted on 06/03/2019 8:27:10 AM PDT by MissEdie (I am South Carolina Strong.)
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To: GOPJ
Interesting take.

Another nail in the mall coffin is public bus stops/terminals.

A big HUGE nail is Amazon.

84 posted on 06/03/2019 8:27:15 AM PDT by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: Red Badger

The old order changeth yielding place to new And God fulfills himself in many ways Lest one good custom should corrupt the world......Alfred, Lord Tennyson

No, I am not posting about the failing Democrat party....... I am thinking of Malls trying to compete with the newer very large strip centers.


85 posted on 06/03/2019 8:27:19 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12)There were Democrat espionage operations on Republican candidates)
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To: cnsmom

Mall walkers and young mothers could be shoppers again but thought would have to be put into incentives:

A study was done on mall shoppers and crime years ago - it had some interesting conclusions.

Early malls had upscale stores with safe monitored bathrooms and in-store lunch restaurants etc.

In the name of efficiency, Food Courts pushed out store lunch places and Mall Management put bathrooms down long hallways (not to compete with higher priced retail space) - places that became common crime sites. This was the reason for concern with ‘out-of-control’ teens ... The study showed over time shoppers started limiting mall shopping to less than four hours - or the time available between natural trips to the bathroom.

Malls were able to fame the problem in terms of ‘racism’ so they didn’t realize the real problem was easy to solve. Put in large well lit monitored bathrooms for shoppers so shoppers and ‘teens’ don’t meet down dark un-monitored hallways...


86 posted on 06/03/2019 8:27:22 AM PDT by GOPJ (Joe Biden will be the Bob Dole of 2020... Democrat's are gonna dump him soon.)
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To: GOPJ

Correct!


87 posted on 06/03/2019 8:28:04 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: VanDeKoik

There was a time building a mall, with tax advantages and other things was a guaranteed profit maker... So, way, way, way too many malls got built for the real demand...

That’s no longer the case, so mall deaths were always a given... then add to the mix that brick and mortar retailing in general is in decline and you will have the continuation fo decades of mall closings.

There will always be malls, but not nearly the number there were in the 90s


88 posted on 06/03/2019 8:29:58 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Red Badger
The mall in my area is still full. However, everybody seems to be taking advantage of the free wi-fi and sipping coffee in the common areas. The Starbucks there does a bang-up business.

Also, the Apple and Microsoft stores are jammed. But that's about it. Most of the stores have more employees than customers.

89 posted on 06/03/2019 8:30:42 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
It is nice to be able to have an expert human help you when you need it - in person and free.

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90 posted on 06/03/2019 8:32:23 AM PDT by TexasGunLover
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To: SamAdams76

Millenials refer to Sears, Penny’s, Macy’s and Dillard’s as ‘fogey stores’...............


91 posted on 06/03/2019 8:33:39 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Bayard

Its not just those...

Tax laws and other things made building a mall, no matter how STUPID it seemed a guaranteed money maker.... So needless to say, WAY TOO MANY GOT BUILT.....

Laws and other things change... so that’s no longer the case.... So, even without Amazon, or other factors, the number of malls was ALWAYS going to fall....

You basically had forces that weren’t “market” driving the building of malls... indirect subsidies made building a mall a guaranteed win for the investors... now that things have changed, they have to prove their existence, and so the number of malls was ALWAYS going to decline, no matter what.

Of course online retail hasn’t helped malls either, but even if Amazon didn’t exist, you would still see the decline in malls that has been going on since the late 90s


92 posted on 06/03/2019 8:34:07 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: dfwgator

IIRC, the “Dawn of the Dead” mall is still open. Ironic!


93 posted on 06/03/2019 8:41:25 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Levy78

repurpose the malls into deportation staging centers.

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Good idea. They hold lots of people. Our local dead mall was a staging center for Katrina refugees way back when.


94 posted on 06/03/2019 8:43:24 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd ( Import the third world and you'll become the third world.)
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To: ladyjane
This is as good a place as any to park this quote...
Every town has the same two malls: the one white people go to and the one white people used to go to.

~~Chris Rock


95 posted on 06/03/2019 8:49:16 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd ( Import the third world and you'll become the third world.)
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To: GOPJ

Our local high schools have open lunch where they leave school and drive to the mall food courts. The rival schools attack each other in the parking lots. I don’t go to malls ever anymore.


96 posted on 06/03/2019 8:52:01 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: moovova

I moved to Charlotte 4 years ago. Are there any good parts of this town? By the way, if the former mall you are thinking of that was razed was located on Central off Sharon Amity Rd, it’s just a big empty place now.


97 posted on 06/03/2019 8:52:45 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (This Deplorable is not fooled by the Marxist-Stalinist totalitarians infesting the Dem Party.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
The City of Detroit did something not dissimilar....with residents! Makes sense as then you don't invite the broken window phenomenon and can better concentrate resources.

New Orleans did something like that as well - the "empty half" of the mall was used for "city and state offices" (the city owned the property by that time). DMV, city tax offices, voter registration - branch offices of pretty much every social spending program available - all in one neat place. Mercifully, Hurricane Katrina took it out.

98 posted on 06/03/2019 8:53:01 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: TexasGunLover
Only iCrap needs that much support.

I can't tell you how many hundreds of hours I worked as an unpaid MSFT support/user.

Nor how many times an Indian MSFT person told us to reinstall windows on one of the computers.

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In 10 years, I've gone to the Apple Store twice for support. Once for a bad memory chip.

That covered 15 devices across their product line.

I'm glad you are happy with MSFT. Keep buying. The S&P 500 needs help!

99 posted on 06/03/2019 8:53:58 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Jonty30
We have a nice little outdoor mall here in San Diego county, out in the 'burbs. Three main stores: a Macys, REI and Barnes and Noble, plus the usual clothing stores....Vans, Pac Sun, Apple, Sephora, Gap, American Eagle.

We would make it a point to do our Christmas shopping there to support the smaller businesses in the mall.

But, high rent has forced most of the stores to shut down. Macys and Barnes and Noble are still there, but REI shut down.

Now, in place of the stores, fitness places have opened up: Yoga, Boxing, TaeKwon Do, dance, Pilates....the vacant REI store will be a Planet Fitness.

100 posted on 06/03/2019 9:04:30 AM PDT by Mrs.Liberty
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