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The rebel priest: ‘Gay people in the church are not going to go away’
The Guardian ^ | May 7th 2019 | Edward Siddons

Posted on 05/07/2019 3:43:32 PM PDT by Ennis85

The Rev Andrew Foreshew-Cain had served as a vicar for around two decades until his fractious exit in 2017. His crime? Marrying his partner, Stephen, in 2014.

While he kept his position at St Mary with All Souls, Kilburn, and St James’, West Hampstead, after his wedding, he says he was “blacklisted” from finding a new job. In 2017, he resigned, publicly condemning the church as “institutionally homophobic”. It was a bold statement, and one he knew would bar him from ever returning.

While heterosexual priests can marry and have sex, gay clergy members are expected to remain unmarried and celibate. “Insisting on celibacy,” he argues, “[implies that] God will only accept you if you don’t have sex; that is, if you don’t want what everybody wants, which is to be loved by somebody and to love them on their terms.” He pauses, weighing his words. “I think that’s abusive.”

He has spent the year and a half since his exit from the clergy near the Peak District, in the quiet Derbyshire village of Chapel-en-le-Frith, restoring a neglected Georgian vicarage. It has been, it seems, an opportunity to create something he couldn’t find in the church: a home for him and his husband.

Now, Foreshew-Cain is returning to the ministry. In the autumn, he will become the chaplain of Lady Margaret Hall, a college at Oxford University, which operates outside the Church of England’s jurisdiction. “It feels as if I’m ready to become a priest again, but a different kind of priest, perhaps.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: anglican; church; churchofengland; gay; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; indiana; mikepence; moralabsolutes; petebuttigieg; religiousleft; sin; southbend
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To: entropy12

Even if we wish to peacefully coexist with them, the reverse will never - CAN never - be true. We are dealing with a mental illness regarding which attention-seeking at any cost, including total personal degradation, is a major feature.


21 posted on 05/07/2019 4:11:34 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The Clinton Coup attempt was a worse attack on the USA than was 9/11)
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To: Ennis85
The RESPONSIBILITY is to REPENT and SIN NO MORE.

NOT to promote the sin or pretend God doesn't care.

22 posted on 05/07/2019 4:24:51 PM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Ennis85

Ok. Go burn


23 posted on 05/07/2019 4:30:12 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: entropy12

“What bothers me the most about gays & lesbians is they are always trying to push their sexuality in everybody’s face.”

That’s a disturbing analogy.


24 posted on 05/07/2019 4:50:25 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: Ennis85

“The church is “institutionally homophobic”.” Of course it is. So am I. I have fear of unknown diseases carried around by vicious people. A priest got married? To another man? Wow. Double trouble.


25 posted on 05/07/2019 4:50:37 PM PDT by Falconspeed
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To: Ennis85

Fine, send them to parishes and congregations in Iraq and other Islamic terrorist countries. Let them showcase the homosexual perversion there.


26 posted on 05/07/2019 5:00:07 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: cnsmom
This affectionate fellow is Anglican, not Catholic.

If your kids are looking for "options," they should consider the option of taking their Confimation graces seriously, becoming more responsible members of the Church Militant, and fighting whether convenient or inconvenient, in season and out, for the Catholic Faith.

The present Pope and many of his higher-perch clerics are disgusting us by abandoning Catholicism. How can you fight that by...abandoning Catholicism??

Does leaving the Church present a good witness of unshakable courage and fidelity? Does YOUR leaving the Church make the Church a better place?

No fear.

No flight.

Stand and fight.

27 posted on 05/07/2019 5:03:08 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God." - 1 Peter 4:17)
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To: rightwingcrazy

Marxists love envying the private property of their neighbors and planning ways to take it by force.


28 posted on 05/07/2019 5:10:31 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: cnsmom

“My children are already looking for non Catholic worship options.”

Are they Catholic now? If so, how will they handle the absence of the Eucharist; the Real Presence of Jesus Christ’s Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity?

Or maybe that is of secondary importance to them?


29 posted on 05/07/2019 5:28:27 PM PDT by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: Ennis85

But their parishioners will.


30 posted on 05/07/2019 5:39:37 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Ennis85

I assume that we’re talking about Anglican priests here. Unless I’m mistaken the Anglican Church stopped being Christian years ago so none of this should be a surprise..


31 posted on 05/07/2019 5:43:12 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Barr:The Bill Belichick of Attorneys General)
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To: Ennis85

They don’t have to go away. They can do as Jesus said - Go and sin no more.


32 posted on 05/07/2019 5:59:26 PM PDT by MomwithHope (IMO Patrick McGoohan - Inventor of the Red Pill)
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To: metmom
Of course not. Satan will always have his tools infiltrating churches to try to bring them down.

Uhhhhhhhhhhh what did he look like???

33 posted on 05/07/2019 6:04:03 PM PDT by terycarl (Notre Dame was God's way of pointing out that France has fallen from His favor....)
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To: cnsmom
My children are already looking for non Catholic worship options.

Look east to Orthodox Christianity.

Swim the Bosporus--the water is fine.

34 posted on 05/07/2019 6:07:09 PM PDT by lightman (Byzantine Troparia: The "praise choruses" of antiquity.)
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To: entropy12

“What bothers me the most about gays & lesbians is they are always trying to push their sexuality in everybody’s face.”

Homosexuality used to be the love that dared not speak its name. Now it’s the love that won’t shut the **** up.

L


35 posted on 05/07/2019 6:08:57 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: terycarl
When you leave the Roman Catholic Church.....this is what you get.....make your own rules....SAD

Like Roman Catholicism is a bastion of heterosexual normalcy.

The irony is so rich........

36 posted on 05/07/2019 6:19:54 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: erkelly
Biblically speaking, people living in open sin should be removed from the church membership, and not allowed to partake in sacraments.

But the homosexual molesting priests are allowed to remain members and dispense the sacraments.

Don't Catholics see the disconnect there?

37 posted on 05/07/2019 6:21:59 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; cnsmom

Our fidelity is to a person, Christ, not an organization, a church, no matter what it calls itself.


38 posted on 05/07/2019 6:25:03 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: terycarl

39 posted on 05/07/2019 6:26:46 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Lurker

Homosexuality is not love.

It’s perverted sex.


40 posted on 05/07/2019 6:27:49 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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