[euram]

The DNC refused to turn over their server, so we don’t know who “hacked” into it. From what I’ve heard, Podesta fell for a phishing email, which allowed someone to get into his email. I haven’t seen any evidence that the Russians were behind that. Graham and everyone else should stop playing the dems/media game, and start pushing back on their “Russia did it” hoax.

[be-baw]

“I haven’t seen any evidence that the Russians were behind that.”

I haven’t either, so I don’t believe it.

Shortly before the end of his term, Obama decided to let all federal intelligence agencies to share information. Eventually, it was concluded that all 14 (or however many there are) agreed that the Russians were the bad guys. It’s likely there was only one that the other agencies bought into.

I’m not saying the Russians aren’t bad guys. They are. But did they hack the Pedestal and DNC files? I’m skeptical without proof. It may very have been Seth Rich and/or others.

[grey_whiskers]

Podesta "the molesta" as he is sometimes called, also set his password to passw0rd, or something similarly trivial.

He should never be allowed near any computer more powerful than an Etch-a-Sketch ever again.

[dp0622]

Is that the most important point anyway??

I’m SURE we try to hack everyone’s sh.t.

What does that have to do with an attempted coup against the POTUS??

If it wasn’t the Russian angle, you don’t think they’d have ANOTHER ANGLE in five minutes.

Or don’t have a backup angle already?

Or ONE fall guy to take the brunt of everything.

Maybe Comey or Brennan.

Or a few lower level FBI, like those two dopes who texted each other treason.

[Alas Babylon!]

One other thing. Soon they’ll have their hands on Julian Assange.

Anything he knows will be ripped out and watch him accept a plea ONLY if he agrees the Russians did it.

[Bullish]

Remember, Podesta’s the one stupid enough to have as his security password the word, “PASSWORD”. Now how dumb is that?

[El Cid]

The DNC refused to turn over their server, so we don’t know who “hacked” into it. From what I’ve heard, Podesta fell for a phishing email, which allowed someone to get into his email. I haven’t seen any evidence that the Russians were behind that....

I haven't seen any evidence that the Russians were behind any hacking either. The DNC (or was it the Hillary bathroom server? I get them confused) server was turned over to 'Crowdstrike' (an affiliate with deep DNC ties) - not the FBI. Their 'conclusion' was that it had Russian fingerprints all over it.

I don't believe the parties involved (certainly not Crowdstrike - since the DNC was paying their bills) - but so what if it were true?
I'd expect the Russians to attempt to hack into our servers (certainly unsecured bathroom servers - owned by sloppy Government officials). As would the Chinese, Albanians, and almost everyone, and anyone.
I'd expect that we are doing the same to other foreign countries.

So what?
The real crime is Government officials who did not follow security protocols. Hillary should be in a jail cell due to her blatant disregard of security - effecting the safety of the Nation.

Foreign countries are going to do what they are going to do (spy, and spread disinformation). We need to do what we have to do - be on guard. And those Government officials that ignore basic good housekeeping security rules need to be held accountable.

[Jim Noble]

“Graham and everyone else should stop playing the dems/media game, and start pushing back on their “Russia did it” hoax“

Except “everyone else” wants Trump gone.

[Candor7]

The DNC refused to turn over their server, so we don’t know who “hacked” into it.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Exactly right. The FBI asked for access to the pertinent servers at the DNC. There was so much dirt on them that they refused.

We are talking about sedition. Lindsey is on the wrong side of this issue.

Obama,Rice, Clinton, Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, Rosenstein, Steele and John McCain's previous Senatorial staff need to be investigated on how they handled the dossier.

The institutions involved that need investigating are the CIA, FBI, DOJ, MI-6, the Senate, and Fusion GPS.

Obama got MI-6 to do dirty work the CIA could not, and Steele was a cut out, appearing to be acting on his own. Not so.

Obama is ultimately responsible for attempting a coup against a duly elected President of the United States. Obama should be indicted along with Hillary Clinton.

The American people are infuriated about these traitors. They betrayed America, and betrayed the Constitution, and tried to destroy our government. Sedition, pure and simple. Obama had MI-6 do what our CIA could not. Think about it, Obama got the U.K.'s MI-6 to use Christopher Steele as a cut out, and he acted "independently" ostensibly as a "retired agent," writing the dossier on MI-6 Stationary, using an internationally accepted intel briefing format, to initiate a coup on a duly elected President of the United States? THATS AN ACT OF WAR by any definition available at international law.

And they have to pay.

Why?

Because it cannot be allowed to happen again. Ever.

Ihave underlined the pertinent portion of the Statute:

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18 U.S. Code § 2385. Advocating overthrow of Government Obama had MI-6 do what our CIA could not.

Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government;

Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or

Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 2, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 87–486, June 19, 1962, 76 Stat. 103; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2385

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