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Trump should stop attacking and lying about McCain
Washington Examiner ^ | March 20, 2019 10:00 AM | Quin Hillyer

Posted on 03/21/2019 5:54:19 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

One can spend several days trying not to overreact to President Trump’s latest, unprovoked tweetstorm against the late Sen. John McCain R-Ariz., yet still conclude that there is something sick and twisted about Trump’s obsession with the singular American hero Trump disparages.

Tom Rogan already in these pages has eloquently explained why, fake heel spurs or no fake heel spurs, Trump could never be fit to wear McCain’s discarded shoes. And lawyer George Conway, husband of top Trump aide Kellyanne Conway, has presented a persuasive case that Trump’s fulminations about McCain and other bizarre eruptions are signs of a personality disorder.

What remains, though, is a reminder that on facts as well as fulminations, Trump’s flip-out against McCain is full of falsehoods.

First, as many others have noted, Trump repeatedly accused McCain of trying to spread the so-called “Steele dossier” as a way to block Trump’s election, but the undisputed evidence shows McCain didn’t even become aware of the dossier until after Election Day. (Plus, McCain did exactly what a senator should do when provided such material: He turned it over to the FBI, without prejudice. But that’s beside the point about Trump’s dishonesty.)

What has not been as adequately refuted is Trump’s allegation that McCain voted against a bill to “repeal and replace” Obamacare, and that McCain’s vote was a big surprise. Neither element of that story is true.

First, by the time a healthcare bill finally reached a vote in the Senate, it was in no way, shape or form a “repeal and replace” bill. In reality, it was a shell of a bill known as “skinny repeal,” which did next to nothing other than keep...

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To: TangledUpInBlue

McCain was a total prick! I hope Trump uses his big fat mouth even more to inform folks like you what a horrible man he really was!


101 posted on 03/21/2019 6:48:19 AM PDT by big bad easter bunny
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Are there bus tours yet where people can defecate on his grave?
102 posted on 03/21/2019 6:49:09 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

The problem with Trump attacking McCain is not with us here on FR, we are very aware of McCain’s treachery. And the Trump supporters outside DC are not going to be swayed either. But there are more than a few independent “moderates” that are rebuffed by the President’s remarks given the media’s continually fawning over McCain (mainly because McCain made no secret of his hatred of Trump). Those independents are critical to his re-election and the weak-kneed among them could be swayed by his brusque remarks. Best he say when questioned again (as the media surely will) that he has provided them with enough information and he is not going to revisit it again.

On the other hand, I agree the George Conway is on track to be found the world’s worst husband and he deserves all the derision he gets.


103 posted on 03/21/2019 6:49:09 AM PDT by CedarDave (Democrats: Creating a dependency class using open borders and voter fraud to get and keep power.)
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To: conservative98

The thing about McCain lying to Trump on the phone was something I just learned about yesterday. That was an evil act on the part of McCain. I just hope there is life after death...


104 posted on 03/21/2019 6:49:29 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Lent
“The guy is dead. It’s like the first lesson you learn - don’t speak ill about the dead or criticize someone who can’t defend themselves.”

That’s the dumbest proposition I’ve heard in a while. So one should not speak ill of Hitler, Stalin, Che Guevera, etc.? You expose like characters including Mcphony who’ve impacted history to the light of truth to learn from their lunacies.

Exactly!

105 posted on 03/21/2019 6:49:39 AM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

I totally agree. He runs his mouth when he should take the high road on certain topics and McCain is one of them.


106 posted on 03/21/2019 6:50:16 AM PDT by Engedi
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To: MagnoliaB

The truth isn’t going to change no matter how dead a guy is.


107 posted on 03/21/2019 6:50:57 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Who is this a-hole:

Richard Quin Edmonson Hillyer, known as Quin Hillyer (born March 16, 1964),is a conservative journalist and politician based in Mobile, Alabama. He is the senior editor of The American Spectator and has written for William F. Buckley, Jr.’s National Review, and was named the managing editor in 1989 of the weekly news magazine Gambit in his native New Orleans, Louisiana. He is also the associate editorial-page editor of The Washington Examiner.]

Background
Hillyer is the younger of two sons of Haywood Hansell Hillyer, III (1937-2010), who is interred at Metairie Cemetery in New Orleans,[4] and the former Brenda Edmonson (born October 8, 1941) of Hendersonville, North Carolina.[5] His wife is Tresy Hillyer. His brother, Hayward Hillyer, IV (1961-2017), was a New Orleans insurance executive who remained behind during Hurricane Katrina to help with rescue efforts and to tend to property and pets left behind by his friends.

Hillyer attended the Isidore Newman School in New Orleans before transferring to the Roman Catholic-affiliated Georgetown University in Washington, D.C., from which he graduated in 1986 with concentration in government and theology.

Career
After working for The New Orleans Times-Picayune, Hillyer became a research director and press secretary to former U.S. Representative Bob Livingston,[3] whoran unsuccessfully for governor of Louisiana in 1987 and twelve years later stepped down from Louisiana's 1st congressional district, based in suburban New Orleans, after he was exposed for an adulterous affair. Livingston had been in line to become House Speaker to succeed Newt Gingrich. In the early 1990s, Hillyer publicly opposed the Republican state Representative David Duke, a former member of the Ku Klux Klan who ran for the U.S. Senate in 1990 and for the Louisiana governorship in 1991.

Hillyer has written for a wide assortment of publications, including the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post, the New Republic, The Guardian in England, the Washington Times, and Investor's Business Daily. In 1997, he joined the editorial staff of the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette in the capital city of Little Rock, Arkansas, with a focus on local and national issues during the term of Republican Governor Mike Huckabee. A year later in 1998, Hillyer joined the editorial desk at The Mobile Register, at which he gained acclaim for his coverage of statewide politics and its effect on the city.

In 2013, Hillyer ran in a special election in Alabama's 1st congressional district with a high-profile endorsement by former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania and finished fourth with nearly 14 percent of the vote in the Republican primary to fill the seat vacated by Jo Bonner (male), who became vice chancellor for the University of Alabama at Tuscaloosa. Victory went to Republican Bradley Byrne. Hillyer continues to write columns and is a writer in residence at the University of Mobile.

In July 2017, Hillyer called for the resignation of U.S. President Donald Trump on the premise that Trump lacks “wisdom, objectivity, and reasonable perspective” in regard to the threat of Russia from a military and diplomatic standpoint. In 1998, Hillyer had called for the resignation of the scandal-plagued President Bill Clinton.

This is the sort of marginal floater who constantly is on the lookout to get a spot in the Lamestram media. Shame on you University of Mobile for hiring him! You claim to be conservative. Hillyer is just another phony Rino. He is unfortunately very typical of many white Upper middle class New Orleanians who call them selves conservatives and Republicans but are just uniparty stuffed shirts who applauded removing ‘divisive monuments such as the Lee statue by Mayor Porky Pig.

108 posted on 03/21/2019 6:52:08 AM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

“I can’t stand it.”

I hope that you feel better, now that you’ve got that off of your chest.


109 posted on 03/21/2019 6:52:24 AM PDT by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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To: CedarDave

Conway is fat and ugly. His wife is ugly. They’re their own punishment. :)

As for the rest, I agree. And that’s my main point. I hate the term “perception is reality” but in McCain’s case, that’s the truth. He was a “maverick” Senator and decorated war hero blah blah blah. 90% of the nation thinks that.

And I agree with you, the “moderates” will not like this. The Prez should change the topic soon and if asked again (baited) he shouldn’t take the bait.


110 posted on 03/21/2019 6:52:54 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Maybe if people think McCain is great they need a wake-up call. History depends on truth, pretending someone is sainted because they dies eliminates any chance of learning form the past and is frankly despicable.


111 posted on 03/21/2019 6:52:54 AM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

I know that you’re not being snarky.

And your assessment is correct. It’s a lot of people.

“But our way or nothing” seems to be a characteristic of humanity.

There are many groups that think this way and have thought this way in the past.

Such as our enemy, the American Left. If we do not adopt their way, they are going to kill us. Their solution is definitely going to involve rail cars and camps.

Our diversity is not our strength.

Our diversity is going to be our undoing.

We are headed to a conflict.

It is my opinion that if a people wants a free society, then that people has no choice but to remove those who conspire to rule or even enslave those people.

For example, within a house a woman cannot be free if she live with a control freak man, and vice versa. The control freak has to go. There is no other solution.


112 posted on 03/21/2019 6:52:59 AM PDT by chris37 (No wall? No vote.)
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To: GSWarrior

Unfortunately a lot of middle-of-the-road low-information voters do not know the background of most issues that the propaganda media chooses to highlight. Trump’s tweet attacks often leave them considering him “unpresidential.” I hope Trump can win re-election.


113 posted on 03/21/2019 6:53:03 AM PDT by Freee-dame (Best election ever! 2016)
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To: Engedi

When he “runs his mouth” he speaks for me!


114 posted on 03/21/2019 6:53:30 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: TangledUpInBlue

You are not mistaken.


115 posted on 03/21/2019 6:53:54 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Trump could never be fit to wear McCain’s discarded shoes.

Exactly the opposite.

Dirty derp traitor McNoName.

#BurnInHell


116 posted on 03/21/2019 6:54:25 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: TangledUpInBlue
You know, I think W had good intentions in a lot of what he did. Maybe not the brightest bulb in the box and he definitely listened too much to the wrong people. But I believe he did what he thought was right. History will judge him. Iraq will stain him. But that said, a small percentage of Bush would do Trump well.

LOL! Good God almighty.

117 posted on 03/21/2019 6:56:06 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Marxism: Trendy theory, wrong species)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

He was asked. You lie or you tell the truth.
He was very restrained but he told the truth.
I would have been very unhappy if he abandoned all his principles to give a comfortable fatuous glib lie.


118 posted on 03/21/2019 6:56:29 AM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
And lawyer George Conway, husband of top Trump aide Kellyanne Conway, has presented a persuasive case that Trump’s fulminations about McCain and other bizarre eruptions are signs of a personality disorder.

Well, once he started citing the "rancid tub of lard", I stopped reading.

119 posted on 03/21/2019 6:57:09 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Modern feminism: ALL MEN BAD!!!)
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To: TangledUpInBlue
Whether intentional or not, I can’t stand it.

Good - so go sit on something hard and sharp... then bounce up and down.

People who fk over their country and the people in it don't get a pass when they die.

120 posted on 03/21/2019 6:57:53 AM PDT by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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