Posted on 03/10/2019 7:34:32 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
“In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution is a moral and political evil in any country.” — Robert E. Lee 1856
Could Gen. Robert E.l Lee’s sentiments deter the “tear down those monuments” crowd?
Probably not.
Given their current success in removing monuments to Confederate generals, ignorant politicians and those whose hobby is going through life seeking to be offended, soon will run out of things to be offended by. Why not broaden the list of "offensive" symbols to include slave owners George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and a host of other founders?
Here in Texas you could add slave owning Texas heroes such as Sam Houston, Jim Bowie and William Travis.
Should we banish from public view all monuments to past historical figures who supported white supremacy, advocated secession or made racist comments?
Consider Abraham Lincoln. In addition to the Lincoln monument in the nation’s capital, there’s probably not a major city in the country without a school, street or park named after Lincoln (Abilene once had Lincoln Middle School).
What do Lincoln's own words tell us about “Honest Abe”, "the Great Emancipator?"
During one of the famous 1858 debates with Sen. Stephen Douglas, Lincoln explained to the crowd: “I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races . . . I am not now nor have ever been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people . . . there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races from living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be a position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.”
Lincoln's prejudices weren’t limited to blacks.
During another debate with Douglas, Lincoln opined: “I understand that the people of Mexico are most decidedly a race of mongrels . . . there’s not one person there out of eight who is pure white”.
In Lincoln's 1861 inaugural address, he endorsed a constitutional amendment, known as the Corwin Amendment, which would forever protect slavery where it existed, telling the audience: “I have no objection to its (Corwin Amendment) being made express and irrevocable”. Lincoln's goal was to save the Union, writing to abolitionist Horace Greeley: “If I could save the Union without freeing any slaves, I would do it”.
Virtually all white men of that time were white supremacists. Lincoln was no exception, and his comments belie his reputation.
Was Lincoln opposed to secession?
Consider his remarks he made in Congress on January 12, 1848: “Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one which suits them better. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people that can, may revolutionize, and make their own of so much territory as they inhabit.” This is exactly what the seceding states did in 1861.
Another discomforting fact for today’s advocates of political correctness: In 2011 I sponsored a commemorative license plate for Buffalo soldiers, iconic black U.S. cavalrymen who served on the frontier. Couldn’t today's Native Americans claim buffalo soldiers participated in a genocidal war against an entire race of people - the American Plains Indians – enslaving them on reservations?
If we’re going to measure Confederates of 150 years ago by today’s standards, shouldn’t we do the same with Lincoln?
Today, it's Confederates. Who’s next? Buffalo soldiers? Our nation’s founders? Our Texas heroes? The possibilities are limitless.
Jerry Patterson is a former Texas land commissioner, state senator and retired Marine Vietnam veteran.
The Dime, you say?
Roosevelt authorized the deportation and incarceration with Executive Order 9066, issued on February 19, 1942...
About a year later...
On February 1, 1943, President Roosevelt activated the 442nd RCT.
“Go For Broke”; and they did.
I would suggest the 442 RTC, belong on the Dime.
every man jack one of them!
The 442nd Regimental Combat Team was the most decorated unit for its size and length of service, in the entire history of the US Military. In total, about 18,000 men served, ultimately earning 9,486 Purple Hearts, 21 Medals of Honor and an unprecedented seven Presidential Unit Citations.
http://www.goforbroke.org/learn/history/military_units/442nd.php
Don't expect them to stop there. What about all those people who tolerated segregation? racial injustice? Their tombstones could be destroyed, their graves desecrated.
And what about all those who tolerated "social injustice"? the exploitation of the masses? inequities of income? health care? homelessness? who refused to allow all those immigrants to flood into the obscenely wealthy USA (never mind the hard work required to establish American wealth)? Their graves should be desecrated, their tombstones destroyed. And why stop there? Why not send them all off to gulags? Or, for that matter, why not guillotine the whole lot of 'em?
Let’s just rename everything Athiest Transgendered Rosa Parks and be done with it.
Well, after all, Mary Todd Lincoln’s family owned slaves, and her half-brothers, and brothers-in-law fought for the Confederacy. And she had her widowed half-sister who had recently lost her Confederate officer husband, stay with them at the White House during the war. Do the Democrats know that?
Kick out sitting Lincoln and leave “empty chair” tribute to Obama.
For that to be technically accurate we’d have to simply have an empty suit on the chair. Sitting in front of a video game. With some reefer and crack on a table nearby.
Where are the statues to General James Longstreet, arguably one of the top four commanders?
Lincoln was of course a FLAMING racist. Hell, he wanted to deport all Blacks and twice got Congress to appropriate funds for the purpose.
No, he didn't. He had plans for voluntary colonization. He discussed them with African-American leaders. They weren't interested. There's no evidence that he advocated forced deportation.
Sending blacks home - when many of them thought of Africa as ‘home’ and had family there - wasn’t racist... I haven’t read about that but from what I know of Lincoln he would NOT have forced blacks to leave, but given them the option of returning home.
I only see two south bashers on this thread so far needling for a tangential argument to divert from the real issue
They are allied with our enemies with the same goals and always have been
I can still see their posts from early 2000s
“Why Wardaddy I’ll be happy if they just move that divisive flag from the capital to that historical marker”
That didn’t satisfy the race left did it?
Nothing will
We have tried to warn south bashers here for two decades now and still they parse and excuse their way around this assault on western civilizations traditional icons
It started with war against my gg grandparents
It won’t stop with them obviously
Former austere poster Goetz von Berlichingen was astute when he determined decades ago here that this is purely an imposition of political will by force of one group over another
“voluntary”. Riiiight.
What a joke. Blacks were also to be “encouraged” to “voluntarily” leave Northern states by the Black Codes they adopted which denied Blacks all civil rights, set huge bonds as a requirement for them to move there, prevented them from being able to enforce contracts or testify against Whites in court, etc etc. That was the sense in which deportation would be “voluntary”.
It's already happened in regards to our largest county. Originally named in honor of Rufus King, King County was re "dedicated" to mlk, thus rendering it just another race-baiting joke.
As for Lincoln, I believe that some skulls full of mush attempted to burn a bust of him. Leftists have no respect for anything.
The state of Mohammed?
WCHSM people are victims of race, religion, sexual preferences, age and gender discrimination. White, Christian, heterosexual, senior, males.
“Where are the statues to General James Longstreet, arguably one of the top four commanders?”
The link wanted a dollar to read the article from the Washington Post.
Too high a price to pay.
The article raises the possibility that Lincoln was suspect. And provides examples.
If there is evidence that Lincoln fought to free the slaves, that would go a long way in rebutting the article.
No, because Lee didn't really have a problem with slavery.
Outside of popular mythology, there is no such evidence.
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