Posted on 03/01/2019 7:28:55 AM PST by Mariner
At a moment when the country has never seemed angrier, two political commentators from opposite sides of the divide concurred last week on one point, nearly unthinkable until recently: The country is on the verge of "civil war."
First came former U.S. attorney Joseph diGenova, a Fox News regular and ally of President Trump. "We are in a civil war," he said. "The suggestion that there's ever going to be civil discourse in this country for the foreseeable future is over. . . . It's going to be total war."
The next day, Nicolle Wallace, a former Republican operative turned MSNBC commentator and Trump critic, played a clip of diGenova's commentary on her show and agreed with him - although she placed the blame squarely on the president.
Trump, she said, "greenlit a war in this country around race. And if you think about the most dangerous thing he's done, that might be it."
With the report by special counsel Robert Mueller reportedly nearly complete, impeachment talk in the air and the 2020 presidential election ramping up, fears that once existed only in fiction or the fevered dreams of conspiracy theorists have become a regular part of the political debate. These days, there's talk of violence, mayhem and, increasingly, civil war.
A tumultuous couple of weeks in American politics seem to have raised the rhetorical flourishes to a new level and also brought a troubling question to the surface: At what point does all the alarmist talk of civil war actually increase the prospect of violence, riots or domestic terrorism?
Speaking to conservative pundit Laura Ingraham, diGenova summed up his best advice to friends: "I vote, and I buy guns. And that's what you should do."
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I just read this article about the Scalise attack- https://www.washingtonian.com/2018/05/28/terrifying-story-of-the-congressional-baseball-shooting-steve-scalise/
I am not yet familiar with the Washingtonian, or the reporter that wrote the article, Luke Mullins, but I commend them both for presenting one of the best written news reports that I have seen in a very long time. The article makes clear just how much the event was downplayed at the time by ALL sources.
June 14, 2017 will have to be considered as a prime candidate in the assessment of the beginning of the ongoing civil war.
I think the OP meant the literal definition of "Civil War", which is multiple sides within a country fighting for control of the government, which it wasn't. The Confederacy wanted to leave and govern itself, making it more closely related to The Revolutionary War (a "rebellion").
“...Your side can’t decide which bathroom to use...”
While my initial reaction is to agree, it’s never a good thing to underestimate the enemy and his capabilities.
There’s some hardcore terrorist true believers on that side, have no doubt. We just get to see the Useful Idiots and cannon fodder right now.
“...They should really be concerned about sniper rifles...”
They’re concerned about ANY rifle.
Any gun gets you a better gun.
” democrats can have the large bankrupted states like California”
You need to unlearn untrue facts.
The state budget is at $6bill surplus AFTER the 3% rainy day allocation is exacted. And CA is producing nearly 15% of national GDP.
Edify thyself.
“...And it will be a covert war with most of the action occurring under cover of night....”
See “Selco: One Year in Hell” for what it would be like. He lived through it.
http://www.hourofthetime.com/1-LF/One%20Year%20In%20Hell.pdf
Give your wife a scoped rifle and see who is the better shot.
That “list” is the crux of it. Other than bumper stickers, they can be hard to ID.
“Give your wife a scoped rifle and see who is the better shot.”
I am. Second, give your wife a packback and a march let’s see if your smart idea doesn’t backfire.
The bullet that takes out Trump will be the first shot of CW II. It will break down much like CW I, North East/West Coast States vs. South/Midwest States (Grouped around Texas) It will be the Democratic Rump USA vs the Republican Constitutional States of America. It will not last as long as CW I, One year, maybe two. President of the CSA Donald Trump Jr. after the Battle of New York, will re-unify the nation and re-build the Capital. While we are fighting, Russia will seize Europe, China takes Korea/Vietnam, and a new world order will be established.
That's the tricky part. Reunifying is not what I think is a good idea. Let the crazy socialists have New England. Deport all the crazies to NE and set up a very tightly patrolled border. I will fight reunification with every fiber of my going. WE CAN'T LIVE WITH THEM. Their needs to be two houses, if you get my point.
Amen. I think too many people don’t understand what this truly means.
I hope it never goes hot. I just think that realistically we are close to the point of no return.
“We’ve been voting, and merely yelling at each other, for a loooong time.”
The people who care have been, or rather the people who care enough to deign to vote about it. But if you look at eligible voter turnout for the last 100 years you realize that not as many people care as one might think. I mean look at the midterms, all this media hype and frenzy. Only around 50% of eligible voters deigned to vote. Which was a really good turnout for midterm elections, it’s usually around 40% or so if I recall.
I think the 24 hour news cycle combined with social media/smartphones is definitely an accelerant to the current political acrimony. But there’s a heck of a lot of people out there just watching cat video crap, not political or social commentary crap.
I almost think the global elite leftists probably don’t want any flash points, so no one thing happens that’s bad enough for folks to risk what they have to stop it. The safest bet is probably to just keep us drifting steadily down the cultural slope.
Freegards
“I wonder how many have thought in passing about their “target list”; - just sayin’.”
Oh, probably quite a few.
“You would think more would simply deign to vote before taking it to the streets or whatever.”
As evidenced in past elections, it’s been proven that the democrats have corrupted the ballot box. Now the fever pitch to corrupt the Electoral College before 2020 comes around.
“...it wasn’t until CSA attacked a small island that the US Navy had literally built that war commenced...” [ctdonath2, post 74]
You are mistaken about the origins and organizational control of Ft Sumter in Charleston Harbor.
From before the American War of Independence until 1947, coast & harbor defenses of the United States were the responsibility of the War Dept. They were built, maintained, manned & operated by US Army personnel; after the War Dept was inactivated in 1947 they remained under control of the Army Dept until the Coast Artillery was itself inactivated in 1949.
In a twist of irony, in April 1861 Ft Sumter was under the command of Robert Anderson (USMA 1825), a Kentucky native who chose to remain in the Union Army instead of resigning to join the Confederacy.
The referenced website is a major inline resource for students & scholars of coast defense history.
While they existed, US coast defenses were the chief mission and activity of the US Army during peacetime. Much of the work of the Army Corps of Engineers was devoted to construction and maintenance - a task lasting generations. Coast artillerists worked never-endingly with the Ordnance establishment to develop better guns, projectiles, and propellants - an endeavor that took on increased importance with the invention of better materials and nitro (smokeless) powders in the waning years of the 19th century.
Meshing electrical power with telephone communications, mechanized range-finding, and mathematical prediction of trajectories, coast artillery became the high-tech branch of the Army.
In further ironic twists, seacoast defenses of the continental United States never came under major attack by hostile forces from the sea.
About 85-90% of the military is on our side for sure.
“I see them at the gun store and range on a regular basis. They try to hide it but a few friendly conversations will out them. More than a few are former military.”
This is how I feel about anyone from the Northeast. NY, NJ, CT and so on.
Everyone out there claims to be a right-wing patriot but when you engage them, you’ll learn differently.
That’s nice, but I can drop a man sized target from 300 to 500 meters without a scope.
“Suspect Antifa and their counterparts have already armed themselves.”
Outside the ones with Airsoft rifles, there may be a small percentage of them with actual weapons BUT they probably don’t have the training needed to be effective. Sure they may get a few shots off before they’re neutralized, but as a whole antifa will fold like a cheap suit.
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