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We need to rethink everything we know about global warming
Science Daily ^ | 1-22-19

Posted on 01/26/2019 6:15:17 PM PST by SJackson

We need to rethink everything we know about global warming

New calculations show scientists have grossly underestimated the effects of air pollution

Date: January 22, 2019 Source: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem Summary: New research shows that the degree to which aerosols cool the earth has been grossly underestimated, necessitating a recalculation of climate change models to more accurately predict the pace of global warming.

For a while now, the scientific community has known that global warming is caused by humanmade emissions in the form of greenhouse gases and global cooling by air pollution in the form of aerosols.

However, new research published in Science by Hebrew University of Jerusalem Professor Daniel Rosenfeld shows that the degree to which aerosols cool the earth has been grossly underestimated, necessitating a recalculation of climate change models to more accurately predict the pace of global warming.

Aerosols are tiny particles that float in the air. They can form naturally (e.g., desert dust) or artificially (e.g., smoke from coal, car exhaust). Aerosols cool our environment by enhancing cloud cover that reflect the sunlight (heat) back to space.

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To: SJackson

As soon as I saw the question” Why is the earth getting warmer instead of cooler” I knew this was bunk. The earth is not getting warmer and has not for about a decade.

The normal condition for earth is Ice Age. The earth has been cooling for the last 10 years, the Sun has been going into what is call a Grand Minimum for over a year now and is likely to be in this condition for decades. Grand Minimums, think Maunder or Dalton Minimum means mini-ice age. I say mini if we are lucky. Since the normal condition of the earth is Ice age and they seem to run for abo0ut 100 thousand years and then have a 10000 year warm period (called interestingly enough inter glacial), which we have been in for some 11000 years. The return of a full ice age is over due.

Global warming would be wonderful if we had it. The earth and it’s civilizations flourished during the Roman Warm period which was warmer than now. Most of what we call warming now is actually the result of measuring stations that used to be rural, in forests are now in cities that have grown up around them so they suffer from “heat island” effect.

Enjoy the warm while you have it, it won’t be here long.


41 posted on 01/26/2019 7:55:53 PM PST by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: FirstFlaBn
The earf has a fever, so mash down on that aerosol button, baby! Everyone must do their part.

If they bring back cans of Right Guard, I can believe I'm back in my high school locker room.

42 posted on 01/26/2019 7:58:37 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: JPJones
So in climate “science”, and ONLY in climate science: Correlation actually PROVES causation!

I fear that it's seeping into other scientific disciplines. Biology and medicine may be the most vulnerable.

Not good.

43 posted on 01/26/2019 8:00:45 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: TigersEye

“I fear that it’s seeping into other scientific disciplines. Biology and medicine may be the most vulnerable.

Not good.”

Interesting times we live in!


44 posted on 01/26/2019 8:04:16 PM PST by JPJones (More tariffs, less income tax.)
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To: SJackson

So the science isn’t settled?


45 posted on 01/26/2019 8:05:56 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: marktwain

When model #1,045 fails, develop model #1,046.


46 posted on 01/26/2019 8:07:34 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: JPJones

... as the Chinese curse goes. lol


47 posted on 01/26/2019 8:09:10 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: FirstFlaBn
"Let’s hear it for freon - it keeps both your car and the planet cool!"

LOL!

48 posted on 01/26/2019 8:12:47 PM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: SJackson; All
Aerosols are tiny particles that float in the air. They can form naturally (e.g., desert dust) or artificially (e.g., smoke from coal, car exhaust). Aerosols cool our environment by enhancing cloud cover that reflect the sunlight (heat) back to space.

The solution to man-made global warming has been obvious and no one saw it.

Burn the forests.

49 posted on 01/26/2019 8:24:20 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: SJackson
I imagine that I could rethink everything we know about global warming in maybe 45-50 seconds. Quicker if I had a fresh mug of Arbuckle's in front of me.
50 posted on 01/26/2019 9:59:44 PM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon (I'm an unreconstructed Free Trader and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SJackson

For God sake, get a life folks.

So many freaking Chicken Littles, simply amazing.

Have they studied turtle farts? I’m sure nobody has thought of that. They need to study those in a hurry.

It may be too late already. /s


51 posted on 01/26/2019 10:43:04 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 from 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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To: SJackson

The first round of lies didn’t work out as predicted so a new round of lies has to be created.


52 posted on 01/27/2019 12:16:31 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: TChad

I thought the use of Hydrofluorocarbons in aerosol cans has been declining since the late 80’s? Who is using this Ozone-depleting stuff? Not us. And our pollution controls on cars are very efficient

Try and get the Red Chinese dictatorship to stop doing anything. You’re gonna need a big mF military, you scientific doodoos.


53 posted on 01/27/2019 1:32:25 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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AOC is a DEAD(LY) ringer for the “heaven’s gate” suicide cult leader, much like congressman shifty.


54 posted on 01/27/2019 3:01:57 AM PST by USCG SimTech
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
New research shows that the degree to which aerosols cool the earth has been grossly underestimated...
IOW, yet another CYA by the global warming hoaxters, another scam to cover the fact that all their other numbers are pulled out of their asses.
Just f'instance, how much would it cool the Earth if all the global warming hoaxters were shot once in their mouths? Would the discharge of that many firearms have an impact on climate?
Trick question -- climate is 100% natural 100% of the time.
Thanks SJackson.

55 posted on 01/27/2019 3:07:45 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: SJackson

I’m looking at two feet of snow piled up outside my window and -15F. Global warming can’t come soon enough.


56 posted on 01/27/2019 4:46:03 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Trudeau never saw a gay pride parade he didn't want to join.)
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To: SJackson

It’s called the Solar minimum,less Sun action folks,happened in the 1800s,the mini ice age.
These people are nuts


57 posted on 01/27/2019 5:13:21 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: ballplayer

1600s?


58 posted on 01/27/2019 5:32:37 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Socialism is for losers.)
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To: SJackson

At a minimum, it speaks to the fact that the “consensus” was never based on the level of scientific certainty that it was sold as, and couldn’t have been because neither the data nor the effects of the data were that accurately understood.


59 posted on 01/27/2019 6:41:03 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
One mechanism for positive feedback is water vapor, which most models claim will increase in the atmosphere and lead to catastrophic consequences. They apparently underestimate the role of negative feedback, for instance from increased cloud cover. And if an inadvertent effect of CO2 burning is aerosols that cool the earth, how hard would it be to deliberately geo-engineer aerosols that would allow us to set the world thermometer just about any level we wish?

Actually not that easy, because of numerous feedback loops (as you mention) that we have no ablility to model.

You are essentially correct in everything else.

They have to assume a positive feedback loop for heating, but the evidence for that does not exist.

In essence, they make the model do what they want it to do, and call it a prediction.

60 posted on 01/27/2019 7:05:36 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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