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Blow to low carb diet as landmark study finds high fibre cuts heart disease risk
The Guardian ^ | Sarah Boseley

Posted on 01/11/2019 1:55:14 AM PST by RoosterRedux

Eating more fibre, found in wholegrain cereals, pasta and bread as well as nuts and pulses, will cut people’s chances of heart disease and early death, according to a landmark review commissioned by the World Health Organization.

The authors of the review, which will inform forthcoming WHO guidelines, say their findings are good news – but incompatible with fashionable low-carb diets.

The research is led by Prof Jim Mann’s team at the University of Otago in New Zealand, who also carried out the major review that informed WHO guidance on curbing sugar in the diet, leading to sugar taxes around the world.

Sugar is a “bad” carbohydrate, but fibre is found in “good” carbohydrates such as wholegrain bread and oat-based muesli. However, the overwhelming backlash against sugar has led to popular diets that reject carbohydrates, including the fibrous sort that can, say the scientists, save lives.

Mann told the Guardian that the research “does contribute to the debate considerably. Here we have got very strong evidence that a high-fibre diet, which for the majority of people is at least high-ish in carbohydrates, has an enormous protective effect – a wide range of diseases including diabetes, cardiovascular disease and cancer benefit from a high-carbohydrate diet.”

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KEYWORDS: carbs; diet; nutrition
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To: RoosterRedux

Pretty much anyone who does low-carb already knows that fiber is a “negative” carb, and therefore beneficial to a low-carb diet. It’s the starches and sugars that are the problem.


21 posted on 01/11/2019 4:03:06 AM PST by Little Pig
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To: RoosterRedux

I don’t get why the fiber has to come from grains. Why not from vegetables? With vegetables you’re getting the fiber but you’re staying low carb. I wonder if the researchers even considered this angle. Probably not, since they’re WHO guys and it wouldn’t fit their agenda.


22 posted on 01/11/2019 4:09:07 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: RoosterRedux

Unfortnately, there isn’t much fibre in things like bread and cereal.


23 posted on 01/11/2019 4:09:25 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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To: RoosterRedux

It is easy to have high fiber without high sugar.


24 posted on 01/11/2019 4:09:29 AM PST by Drawsing (Fools show their annoyance at once, the prudent man overlooks an insult. Proverbs 12:16)
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To: RoosterRedux

Due to change without notice. Next there will be “good fiber” and “bad fiber”.


25 posted on 01/11/2019 4:17:31 AM PST by GingisK
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To: RoosterRedux

I wish The Who would just stick to music.


26 posted on 01/11/2019 4:17:58 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Ruth Bader Ginsburg doctor is a taxidermist.)
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To: right way right

WHO is them? WHO? I Don’t Know’s on third.


27 posted on 01/11/2019 4:18:21 AM PST by smartymarty (How a mountain girl can love.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Try All Bran or Bran Buds.


28 posted on 01/11/2019 4:19:22 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Pulses are part of the legume family (any plants that grow in pods), but the term “pulse” refers only to the dry edible seed within the pod. Beans, lentils, chickpeas and split peas are the most common types of pulses. Pulses are special because they have distinct health benefits apart from other legumes. Unlike legumes like peanuts and soy, for example, pulses are low in fat and very high in protein and fiber. (from https://pulses.org/nap/what-are-pulses/).

I never heard of pulses.

29 posted on 01/11/2019 4:26:40 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Kill-googl,TWITR,FACBK,NYT,WaPo,Hlywd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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To: rarestia; All

“sugar and carbs are the cause for our expanding waistlines and need to be moderated”

I disagree - I had a 6 week period of time where I ate a big bowl of oatmeal with maple syrup poured on it 1-2 times a day with nuts or fresh fruit added, i also ate salads with all sorts of things added including beans, fruit, I ate whole eggs and potatoes with cheese 3-4 times a week and some meat every day or two (i don’t normally eat meat ofthen but was trying to add more in for added protein). I lost 25 lbs and dropped my cholesterol 96 points. By your statement, I had lots of “sugar and carbs” yet my wasitline/weight slimmed down.

I another time had about a week of visiting relatives where they eat bread products at least 2 times a day. I was sure I would gain weight that visit but i actually dropped two pounds In reflection I realized it was likely because they made the scones and pancake mix and biscuits etc from scratch with more whole grain prodcuts rather than highly processed packaged items. That seems to make a big difference in how they body can handle “bread”/”carbs”

not any one way of eating is right for everybody. though we got similar stuff inside us it’s all slightly different and how we handle stress or our unique chemical balances vs a bit of genes factored in plus lifestyle (active or not) all plays into what will work best for various people.

Just thinking negatively about the food you eat (”this will go right to my waistline” “this is so unhealthy but I’m gonna have it anyway” “doctor said i shouldnt have this”) causes the body to handle the food differently than if you don’t attach negativity to your food. Like talking kindly to a house plant vs yelling at it will cause difference in house plants.

this landmark study is nothing new nor landmark - it’s been known for decades that fibre helps the heart stay healthier (oats for heart health is on cherrios boxes for many years) as well as leafy greens and plant fiber, potatoe skins etc.


30 posted on 01/11/2019 4:27:34 AM PST by b4me (God Bless the USA)
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To: RoosterRedux

I lost 60 lbs in 6 months in 1986 and ate an extremly high carb diet. But that is when I got in to bicycling and was riding an average of 300 miles a week. Carbs gave me the energy to do the exercise. We used to say fat burns in the flame of carbohydrates.

Bottom line carbs are fine if you balance their input with exercise but most are to lazy to put out the effort.


31 posted on 01/11/2019 4:32:14 AM PST by Okieshooter
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To: RoosterRedux
Bran Buds, yes! Lots of fiber.

After gall bladder surgery, my poop was very greasy and required a mile of toilet paper to clean it up. Someone online recommended Bran Buds.

I started having a 1/2 cup or more each morning. You can eat it with milk, but I crunch them down dry and drink something with them.

I am happy to say that my poop came on a regular basis, lost its greasy-ness, and it was very bulky, which is good.

32 posted on 01/11/2019 4:36:34 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Kill-googl,TWITR,FACBK,NYT,WaPo,Hlywd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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To: Sans-Culotte; All
See my post #32 for fiber.

33 posted on 01/11/2019 4:39:49 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Kill-googl,TWITR,FACBK,NYT,WaPo,Hlywd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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To: RoosterRedux

Having good genes doesn’t hurt.


34 posted on 01/11/2019 4:48:19 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: RoosterRedux

bookmark


35 posted on 01/11/2019 4:48:27 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: RoosterRedux

I just did a five day fast. Nothing but water.

I had an unexpected outcome:

I’m 65 and have grown accustomed to getting up three or four times a night to go to the bathroom. I finished the fast Monday. I’ve slept through the night every night since.

I didn’t see that coming.


36 posted on 01/11/2019 4:50:36 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Celtic Conservative
If that’s true then I’m functionally immortal.

So far, so good.

37 posted on 01/11/2019 4:54:26 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: RoosterRedux

bread is the staff of life

American bread sold in plastic wrapped loaves is basically dough


38 posted on 01/11/2019 4:54:36 AM PST by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Princess Gray Beaver, for President?)
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To: IamConservative
I've not seen a link between cholesterol you eat and cholesterol in the blood

True. Only about 20% of your cholesterol comes from food. Your body makes the rest, and the amount produced is inherited.

https://www.heartfoundation.org.au/healthy-eating/food-and-nutrition/fats-and-cholesterol/cholesterol-in-food

39 posted on 01/11/2019 5:00:38 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Kill-googl,TWITR,FACBK,NYT,WaPo,Hlywd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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To: RoosterRedux

As I expected, they didn’t say who paid for the study.

There are HUGE INTERESTS at stake here, as the entire food industry is centered on carbs. Take those out, or even reduce them substantially, and you throw millions out of work, including thousands with high 6-figure and 7-figure incomes. They will ‘resist’, to use a bit of Snowflake terminology.

As to fiber itself, the low carb diets actually do recommend fiber, as you get that in nuts and related items (along with some, but varying amounts of carbs), which they consider very healthy.

It would also be interesting to see how they controlled for other factors, such as weight - my guess is that they ignored the much higher percentage of overweight people on high carb versus low carb, and instead just compared people in the same weight bands - if so, they’ve ignored a huge benefit of law-carb, which is the weight loss.

Thomas Sowell had a (stolen) phrase for studies like this. He calls it: “The Empire Strikes Back”. He was using it in an education format, but it probably is the case here, also.


40 posted on 01/11/2019 5:06:26 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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