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Minneapolis, tackling housing crisis and inequity, votes to end single-family zoning
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | December 13, 2018 | Sarah Mervosh

Posted on 12/15/2018 12:18:47 PM PST by artichokegrower

In a bold move to address its affordable-housing crisis and confront a history of racist housing practices, Minneapolis has decided to eliminate single-family zoning, a classification that has long perpetuated segregation.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: blight; ghetto; redevelopment; sfr; slums; zoning
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To: palmer

Where I live the detached houses are 70s to 80s vintage. They are hardly teardowns but they are often priced lower than new construction (the last 10 years) condos and townhomes. So I might like detached with some green grass and trees outside...While others put a premium on new and hassle free. As in the condo association takes care of repairs, grass mowing and so on. To each his own.


61 posted on 12/15/2018 2:42:12 PM PST by dennisw
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To: artichokegrower

Minneapolis crime is about to sky rocket.


62 posted on 12/15/2018 2:47:12 PM PST by Retvet (Retvet)
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To: dennisw

Lots of older singles in my area——a daughter just sold a 100 year old single for $1.2 million.

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63 posted on 12/15/2018 2:48:13 PM PST by Mears
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To: shelterguy

Yeah, I don’t know. I would suggest getting out of there when it peaks. I love the moccasins (green line west) but I can buy them here in Virginia. I think you might be blue line north and that looks very nice on Google street view. I don’t think there’s any danger of being overrun but then you might as well take advantage of the new development nearby and cash in.


64 posted on 12/15/2018 2:55:22 PM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: Kozak

Follow the Money!


65 posted on 12/15/2018 2:58:32 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

Says you.

There is a subdivision in North St. Louis County, Missouri named Barrington Downs. It was an upscale subdivision with houses in the $300,000 range in the 1980s. Then they government decided to move in deserving Section 8 drug dealers. Now they go for $75,000.


66 posted on 12/15/2018 3:02:23 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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To: Trump.Deplorable
Zoning laws have a purpose.

If you want to tell me that zoning should be outlawed in areas where everyone lives off the grid and with no need for access to public infrastructure, I'd agree with you.

But the primary purpose of zoning codes is to make sure that whatever is built does not strain the existing roads, sanitary sewers, and storm drainage. I can show you plenty of older areas in my neck of the woods that were developed before zoning codes were established. The first thing you notice is that congested roads and urban flooding are the norm.

67 posted on 12/15/2018 3:14:12 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: palmer
The single-family home was probably built around the 1980s.

What's happening here is that more and more people simply don't want to live in a detached home anymore. Between property taxes and maintenance costs, they've become liabilities instead of assets.

68 posted on 12/15/2018 3:15:47 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: BenLurkin

Minneapolis is GONE.


69 posted on 12/15/2018 3:16:33 PM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (God Bless President Trump!)
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To: Mears

My lazy Obama answer....location location location. And your daughter has a good one.


70 posted on 12/15/2018 3:25:31 PM PST by dennisw
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To: ThunderSleeps

Don’t know what the economy or minimum wage is in your area, but try to entice them with about 8 dollars an hour.
They have to provide the tools and safety equipment subject to your approval.
You provide the supervision and work directions.
Lunch and breaks are unpaid.
Or try your local High School through their shop and ag programs, make the same offer through the instructors for kids who would like extra credit.
Worked pretty good for me (getting old), kids get paid, get some extra credit if the instructors approve, kids get some real work experience, and I get to play supervisor again after being retired for the last 11 years.


71 posted on 12/15/2018 3:36:14 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: grey_whiskers

Nebraska


72 posted on 12/15/2018 3:36:39 PM PST by jim_trent
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To: Trump.Deplorable

“I say too bad, change happens, get use to it.”

Sounds like libertarian dogma.

Libertarians have no more affection for the everyday concerns of middle America than leftists do.

If getting rid of zoning forces middle Americans into living in high rise ant hives they just better get used to it.

Can’t have nasty zoning regulations protecting their little neighborhoods from the god of progress. Economic efficiency is the highest of all values.

That’s why Russell Kirk could write that other than detesting collectivism, conservatives and libertarians have nothing in common.

https://isistatic.org/journal-archive/ma/25_04/kirk.pdf


73 posted on 12/15/2018 3:39:01 PM PST by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: dennisw

I have 6 dogs; F#CK THE HOA’s.


74 posted on 12/15/2018 3:45:07 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Ding ding ding

You just proved my point

“Then they government decided to move in .....”

Free markets and government out of the housing market, that would have never happened.

The government made it happen

I have a feeling the people who made that decision owned the land that the project was being built on. They probably bought it for 10K and sold it to Uncle Sucker for 1 million bucks.... That is how it works now.

The ‘projects’ were their to help the poor, they were their to help the connected get even more rich. If a handful of poor people ended up getting a place to live, that was the side effect, not the goal.


75 posted on 12/15/2018 3:53:58 PM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: Trump.Deplorable

“Neighborhoods change, populations change, demographics change, it going to happen,”

You must be against building a wall on our southern border. The United States immigration system is a large zoning process. Growth is allowed but it must be controlled so as not to overwhelm the infrastructure and not negatively affect the current residents.


76 posted on 12/15/2018 3:54:18 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: palmer

Yeah, I don’t know. I would suggest getting out of there when it peaks. I love the moccasins (green line west) but I can buy them here in Virginia.
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I live in Minnetonka, home of Minnetonka Moccasins.....which are made in China.


77 posted on 12/15/2018 3:57:34 PM PST by shelterguy
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To: artichokegrower

Immigration has nothing to do with zoning.

Immigration is actually in the constitution and should be enforced.

Zoning, however is no where to be seen in constitution. However it is strictly enforced.

Zoning does, however, appear in Karl Marx’s writings....


78 posted on 12/15/2018 4:05:44 PM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: Steve_Seattle

I live in a single family neighborhood that could not be any more racially diverse. Very, very nice neighborhood. We have great block parties on 4th of July with great pot luck dishes. Everyone decorated really extensively for Christmas.

The propaganda is really too much isn’t it? Hard to believe how blatant it has become.


79 posted on 12/15/2018 4:38:47 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom
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To: artichokegrower

Precisely

How does single family zoning create segregation???


80 posted on 12/15/2018 5:01:23 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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