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8 Million People Are Working Illegally in the U.S. Here’s Why That’s Unlikely to Change.
New York Times ^ | Dec. 11, 2018 | MIRIAM JORDAN

Posted on 12/11/2018 7:32:59 PM PST by ConservativeStatement

They make beds in inns across the country. They pick oranges in Florida, strawberries in California and vegetables in Ohio. And they have built new subdivisions in Phoenix, Atlanta and Charlotte.

For years, policymakers have talked about shutting off the influx of undocumented workers. But the economy has grown to rely on them.

Ending illegal immigration, say many of those who have studied the issue, could mean that American workers would lose their jobs, companies would close and the economy would contract.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; democraticvoters; electionfraud; ilegals; illegalimmigrants; immigration; treason; voterfraud
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

The issue is not that we CAN’T get them to leave.

The issue is that YOU are UNWILLING to do whatever is necessary to get them out.


101 posted on 12/12/2018 3:40:27 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: ConservativeStatement
I think the apartment complex we moved into 9temp place until the house sells and we know what we have to work with for a new place) is using illegals.

A number of Mexicans, a number that don't seem to speak much English, doing renovations and such as 'contractors". The upstairs folks sometimes get loud at night and i was told by those who live up there that it is a suite with about 8 'contractors' living there. Complained to the office and they claim they can't do anything without recorded proof and that it's regular residents living up there....did another check and it is, in fact a number of male Mexicans in the place....

Only reason for them to stonewall complaints and lie about them living there is because something ain't kosher....thinking of giving ICE an anonymous call to see if anything shakes out.

102 posted on 12/12/2018 3:41:36 AM PST by trebb (Those who don't donate anything tend to be empty gasbags...no-value-added types)
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To: momincombatboots

Make the penalties for hiring illegals high enough, and do enough actual enforcement of the law, and companies will stop hiring illegals.


103 posted on 12/12/2018 3:42:32 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Hear that whooshing noise? That was a comment going over your head.


104 posted on 12/12/2018 3:53:01 AM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: ConservativeStatement

8 million? what a joke. Low by a factor of 4.


105 posted on 12/12/2018 4:28:11 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: posterchild

Too late. (see: Hillary Clinton, DOJ, FBI, IRS, and Democratic Party) but I repeat.


106 posted on 12/12/2018 4:30:29 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff
You CANNOT deport every single illegal immigrant in this country. It’s just not possible.

Sure you can. But the circumstance would necessitate the very type of government/environment that we fear, viz. a government that would inevitably turn on us. When the wrong people get (back) into power, that is.

107 posted on 12/12/2018 5:21:47 AM PST by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Rich folks need their slaves. The people who scream loudest about the injustices of slavery should be the ones demanding they be sent home so that we, the USA, can rid the practice of slavery once and for all.


108 posted on 12/12/2018 5:25:52 AM PST by BRL
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To: entropy12

Those 8 million WORKING picking oranges and strawberries, and washing dishes in diners and mowing your lawn

I’ll guarantee you every one of those 8 million that are working are also drawing welfare...on their American born kids. You think you can support a family on that kind of pay?


109 posted on 12/12/2018 5:30:09 AM PST by sheana
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To: American in Israel

When do you plan to start?


110 posted on 12/12/2018 5:49:06 AM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: ConservativeStatement
Ending illegal immigration, say many of those who have studied the issue, could mean that American workers would lose their jobs, companies would close and the economy would contract.

Total f---ing lie. All it would mean is wages for citizens would go up. So it would be slightly inflationary. It would also mean less welfare, educations, housing, medical and food stamps.

111 posted on 12/12/2018 5:52:53 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff
You CANNOT deport every single illegal immigrant in this country.

YES.WE.CAN.AND.SHOULD

112 posted on 12/12/2018 5:54:18 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Unfortunately, Trump has not done anything to upset this apple cart. He talks only of the wall and border security, for example, to keep criminal elements and terrorists out.

And where are we, how much political capital did he put in in his two years with a GOP House and Senate, in terms of beginning to get the number of illegals out who are here currently?

Yes, there would be short-term disruption and some of the domestic economy would shrink, but we would get our country back, particularly in terms of devolving voting patterns—and we would massively cut our government welfare expenditures, both now and in the future.

Unfortunately, again, Trump and co. seem uninterested in changing the situation regarding the tens of millions of illegals here currently (which would undoubtedly lead to amnesty and citizenship at an increased rate down the road) and even have allowed two years to pass with now increased illegal border passage, with what should have been stopped on day one.


113 posted on 12/12/2018 5:54:32 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

You are the problem, a real POS.


114 posted on 12/12/2018 5:55:06 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: goodnesswins

But we don’t need them, either. And they tend to have anchor babies, etc.


115 posted on 12/12/2018 5:55:39 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Squish.


116 posted on 12/12/2018 5:56:01 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Yaelle

Exactly.

Also, the claim that Trump at times and some Freepers make that they’d do anything for economic gain for the country is not only morally corrupt, but destructive to the future they claim they are looking to protect.


117 posted on 12/12/2018 5:56:56 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: GuavaCheesePuff
You CANNOT deport every single illegal immigrant in this country. It’s just not possible.

You are correct. Your analysis makes sense. But people are taking your words as a challenge instead of a simple statement of fact.

Of course, as you so carefully noted, it does not matter if every single one is deported or not. What matters is getting a handle on the flood of foreign born people in our country, who are being used to destroy the country and culture we have had and wish to keep.

118 posted on 12/12/2018 5:56:58 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

The NY Times is apparently totally unacquainted with recent advances in the field of robotics.


120 posted on 12/12/2018 6:06:24 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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