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A worth while article published in an online police journal.
1 posted on 12/11/2018 6:43:17 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Plain and simple, some police are high on power and a bit too trigger happy, protected for their actions too often because they are the police.


2 posted on 12/11/2018 6:48:39 AM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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To: marktwain

Both sides of this issue have to come to a understanding what the proper response is.

When confronting one or the other.

It is not a one way street.


3 posted on 12/11/2018 6:51:24 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: marktwain

When an officer encounters an armed person they have no way of knowing that individual’s intentions. Guessing wrong can be fatal. The difficulty is how does the good guy convincingly communicate their good intentions in an encounter that will be measured in seconds?


5 posted on 12/11/2018 6:57:14 AM PST by Spok
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To: marktwain

Cops kill unarmed citizens

Still better to be to armed!


6 posted on 12/11/2018 7:02:51 AM PST by RedMonqey ("Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didn't.")
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To: marktwain
So why are they accidentally killed by police with such distressing frequency?

Because the police get paid by and take orders from government officials who have a vested interest in disarming lawfully armed citizens.

9 posted on 12/11/2018 7:12:56 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (I'd rather have one king 3000 miles away that 3000 kings one mile away)
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To: marktwain
Easy to say but hard to put into practice...when knocking on a door responding to a "disturbance" call can be deadly, the citizens need to understand that when cops respond to a violent situation, they are also thinking of preserving their own lives.....many of the 'accidental" killings are pure cases of contributive negligence where the citizen doesn't do everything he can to not present as a threat.

There are bad cops out there but I'd wager not as many as some seem to think and one needs to do their own part to contribute to their own safety.....must be hard on a good cop to find out he killed a good citizen...no wonder they have a high number who eat their own guns.

12 posted on 12/11/2018 7:21:03 AM PST by trebb (Those who don't donate anything tend to be empty gasbags...no-value-added types)
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To: marktwain

Plainclothes and off-duty police officers have been killed by other officers. It is always a tricky situation when the on-duty crew shows up. You’d have to go into the details of each incident but it’s best to holster the weapon and show your hands.

That being said, it sure looks like there’s an increasing tendency to shoot first and ask questions later. Maintaining cover and taking a couple of seconds to assess the situation would help.


13 posted on 12/11/2018 7:22:08 AM PST by SargeK
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To: marktwain

When your main tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
The training is the main problem, too aggressive. also the personality profile of the trainee is important.


15 posted on 12/11/2018 7:23:47 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE
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There is no segment of the community more supportive of law enforcement than their fellow citizens who are lawfully armed.

Which segment, in New Jersey, is almost zero. The number one gun "crime" in our state is possession of a handgun without government blessing, which is nearly impossible to obtain.

22 posted on 12/11/2018 7:46:25 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: marktwain

Great article.
Thank you!


41 posted on 12/11/2018 9:27:12 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: marktwain
In each of these situations, the officers believed they were using force to stop someone who had endangered innocent life, but they were sadly mistaken.

Maybe.

The police have become trigger happy on not only armed citizens but on unarmed citizens as well.

Their standard seems to be, shoot anyone who is not completely and totally obedient. Whether the police have any authority in the situation or if they are on or off duty. They also shoot when they are "startled" or "feel unsafe".

So frankly I am not sure that they were "mistaken" or just following their training. Shoot everything that you want . No hesitation. After all the only thing that matters is that YOU, the person who wears the magic blue clothing, gets home safely.

The rest of the citizens of the country are expendable to that.

44 posted on 12/11/2018 9:45:36 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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To: marktwain

Didn’t read the article yet but the popo went home safe in all those cases. Job well done.


65 posted on 12/11/2018 6:28:38 PM PST by wgmalabama (Mittens is the new Juan. Go away mittens!)
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To: Nailbiter

flr


75 posted on 12/12/2018 7:22:06 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: marktwain

Having read through all of the posts, my take-aways are:

Avoid interaction with LE at every opportunity ( everything you say and all). Don’t speed, come to a full stop, do PMCS regularly on your vehicle etc, that IS under your control.

Avoid involving oneself with situations that do not directly involve yourself or your loved ones, be a good witness, use your cell phone camera long before your sidearm maybe?

If unable to avoid either the above, insure that your weapon(s) are holstered or otherwise secured long before the LEOs arrive, declare yourself “ a good guy”, and most importantly, maintain situational awareness (head on a swivel, focus on the whole of the immediate area and assess what you see/hear/sense quickly; decide based on that input. Remember, another CCW type may not know that you are a good guy either!

Regarding CCW and LE interaction- know what is required by law- do it. Never assume that any cop is either a good or bad guy ( just like any other person you encounter and interact with n the street) but, have a plan either way.

If being armed is an occasional thing, then I think you are more likely to have issues than if it is an everyday all the time mentality. If you are a “newbie” at this lifestyle, then I suggest participating in role playing and competitive marksmanship ( IDPA or USPSA etc) to burn off the butterflies and nerves etc. Never stop thinking….

God Bless the good guys, whomever they are.


96 posted on 12/16/2018 6:43:16 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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