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John Podesta Is Ready to Talk About Pizzagate
Rolling Stone ^ | December 9, 2018 | Andy Kroll

Posted on 12/10/2018 9:45:31 PM PST by yesthatjallen

WASHINGTON — John Podesta has given it a lot of thought and believes the best way to deal with the trolls is to ignore them. His wife, Mary, however, takes a different approach. When angry people call their home in the middle of the night, she has a conversation with them.

“She sits on the phone and talks to them, which is disconcerting actually to most of the people who are calling just to leave a nasty message on your voicemail,” Podesta says. “When somebody actually engages them and says, ‘Why are you doing this?’ they fold pretty quickly. But she has more patience for that than I do.”

Podesta is easily forgiven for having little time for his tormentors. Since 2016, he has been the victim of a deranged and viral conspiracy theory known as Pizzagate. The theory — which has its roots in the emails stolen from his personal account by Russian hackers and dumped online by WikiLeaks — claimed that Podesta was a pedophile and that he, Hillary Clinton and a Washington, D.C., restaurateur named James Alefantis ran a child sex-trafficking ring from the basement of Alefantis’ pizzeria, Comet Ping Pong.

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Even after the arrest, Pizzagate lived on. The day after Welch stalked into Comet, Michael Flynn, Jr., the son of Trump’s first national security adviser, tweeted: “Until #Pizzagate proven to be false, it’ll remain a story.” An Economist/YouGov poll in late December 2016 found that 46 percent of Trump voters and 17 percent of Clinton voters thought Pizzagate was real. A few months later, a small rally of Pizzagate believers took place outside the White House. Protesters have stood outside Comet carrying blown-up photos of Alefantis’ god-daughter taken from his social media accounts. Strangers online have threatened to torture, rape and kill him.

“I’ve been through a lot of Washington shit in my life,” Alefantis tells Rolling Stone. He grew up in D.C., and dated David Brock, the notorious conservative journalist turned Clinton loyalist, for 10 years. “This is not my first time at the rodeo,” he says. “I had never seen this volume of specific, directed attacks.”

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For four decades John Podesta has worked at the highest levels of American politics: campaign chairman for Hillary Clinton’s historic 2016 presidential run, chief of staff to President Bill Clinton during the Monica Lewinsky scandal, counselor to President Obama and adviser to senators and congressmen. But nothing could prepare him for Pizzagate.

Speaking about the conspiracy theory and its impact on his life for the first time, Podesta tells Rolling Stone that he learned about it the old-fashioned way: from the news. As Clinton campaign chair, he had spent the final month of the 2016 race locked in hand-to-hand combat with reporters about the contents of his personal emails, which WikiLeaks was releasing in periodic batches to damage Clinton’s chances. He didn’t have time to reflect on the hack, let alone notice the conspiracy theories bubbling up about him on websites like Reddit and 4Chan.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 201812; alefantis; pizzafake; pizzagate; podesta; thingsrapehoaxerssay
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To: yesthatjallen
... The theory — which has its roots in the emails stolen from his personal account by Russian hackers and dumped online by WikiLeaks ...

Speaking of lies and smears that data breech was too fast to have been downloaded on the Internet. Seth Rich downloading onto a thumb drive is most likely what happened.

21 posted on 12/11/2018 2:20:48 AM PST by Nateman (If the left is not screaming, you are doing it wrong)
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To: yesthatjallen

Interesting that he is compelled to get ahead of it...I haven’t had much hope lately of the bad guys getting punished, but this gives me a little bit.


22 posted on 12/11/2018 2:34:07 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (PDJT, please re-teach the nation that crony capitalism is not capitalism!)
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Bkmk


23 posted on 12/11/2018 3:05:33 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("Workers of the world unite"...behind Trump.)
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To: Nateman
that data breech was too fast to have been downloaded on the Internet

Not even close. The allegation is 87 seconds for less than 2GB: https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/24/intel-vets-challenge-russia-hack-evidence/ In that article they say:

The Key Event

July 5, 2016: In the early evening, Eastern Daylight Time, someone working in the EDT time zone with a computer directly connected to the DNC server or DNC Local Area Network, copied 1,976 MegaBytes of data in 87 seconds onto an external storage device. That speed is much faster than what is physically possible with a hack.

No idea where they got their 87 seconds number. That's slower than a typical internet transfer, server to server, which I tested yesterday and got 70 MB/sec The whole article and organization reads like disinformation. It is certainly possible and more likely than not that the DNC email leak was by insider(s). But the 87 second claim does not prove anything. It shows complete lack of understanding of internet transfer speeds

Speaking of which, pizzagate also looks like a giant disinformation campaign designed, successfully, to paint people as unhinged. It worked perfectly when some idiot went looking for the basement in a building with no basement. Jerks like Podesta are probably bringing up pizzagate again to deflect from the fact that they were let off the hook for FARA violations and tax evasion (especially Podesta's brother) that are being used against Trump allies.

24 posted on 12/11/2018 3:08:45 AM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: palmer

Internet speeds are expressed in MegaBITS per second. There are 8 bits to a byte.

To capture 1,976 bYtes in 87 seconds, the download speed would have to be nearly 200 megaBITS per second.


25 posted on 12/11/2018 3:42:28 AM PST by nesnah (Liberals - the petulant children of politics)
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To: nesnah
FIle transfer speeds are in Megabytes per second. Here's the output from my test:

1916MB 72.1MB/s 00:26

26 posted on 12/11/2018 3:53:45 AM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: palmer

No, you are incorrect.

Go do a little Googling about internet speeds and how they are expressed and you’ll find I am correct.


27 posted on 12/11/2018 3:59:26 AM PST by nesnah (Liberals - the petulant children of politics)
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To: yesthatjallen

The media plays defense again for democrats. They are not actually investigating. No- that’s for Republicans.

They are only dismissing it out of hand as ‘a theory’.


28 posted on 12/11/2018 4:04:33 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: yesthatjallen

I remember the night Trump won in 16 and was watching Podesta speaking to the losers at Hillary’s election party ( which she didn’t even have the decentsy to make a concession speech) and he said something to the effect that “ don’t worry folks, we’re gonna fix this situation”. He truly looked like a ghoul. I looked over to my wife and said that these azholes have something devious up their sleeves. Now we’re seeing the poison fruit of their labor.


29 posted on 12/11/2018 4:04:47 AM PST by HighSierra5
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To: nesnah
I did that file transfer yesterday to test the notion that two servers, in two parts of the world, cannot send a 2 GB file in 87 seconds. I sent a 1.9 GB file in 26 seconds. My printout is in GBytes per second.

When a hacker or anyone else is transferring data, they are transferring bytes, not bits. The bits/sec pipe speeds are hidden underneath. The pipes under the ocean being used for this sort of transfer now range up to 160 TBits per second and there are many such pipes. No shortage of bandwidth. Just that one pipe alone is 20,000,00 MBytes / second or about 285,000 times faster than my transfer speed.

In any case, by occam's razor, the best explanation of the DNC email leak is an insider. But the blather in that "Intel Vets Challenge ‘Russia Hack’ Evidence" article is unsupported. It is not "proof" of any sort.

30 posted on 12/11/2018 4:10:33 AM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: palmer

In any case, by occam’s razor, the best explanation of the DNC email leak is an insider.


On this, we are in agreement.


31 posted on 12/11/2018 4:16:15 AM PST by nesnah (Liberals - the petulant children of politics)
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To: palmer
the 87sec came from the time stamps on the files transferred from beginning to end of transfer
32 posted on 12/11/2018 4:25:12 AM PST by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: unlearner

I watched that video. I’ve never been filled with such rage, horror and disgust before this. The terror in the little boy’s voice broke my heart. Knowing that even worse things were done to him makes me feel so helpless. I can’t wrap my mind around the evil in the hearts and minds of these people.


33 posted on 12/11/2018 4:27:23 AM PST by NorthstarMom
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To: palmer

+.


34 posted on 12/11/2018 4:28:04 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Paladin2

Lock up is temporary


35 posted on 12/11/2018 4:31:06 AM PST by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Invade Honduras. Provide a military government)
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To: palmer

Bingo!

Your last paragraph says it ALL.


36 posted on 12/11/2018 4:32:45 AM PST by Maris Crane
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To: yesthatjallen

Just show the EXTREMELY UPSETTING ART that is both his and his sicko brother’s homes!! NO Normal person owns that kind of DISTURBING “art” without being a PERVERT!


37 posted on 12/11/2018 4:34:12 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Title should be, “John Podesta Is Ready to LIE About Pizzagate”. No way in hell he’s going to come clean or throw anyone under the bus; he’s up to his eyeballs in everything the Clintons and their friends have done.


38 posted on 12/11/2018 4:34:57 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: MarMema

I have no idea as to whether the Pizzagate story is true or not. However, a very good friend of mine who was an FBI agent and former Special Agent in Charge once told me that the American people have no idea of the depth and extent of child sex trafficking in the United States. He went on to tell me that there are child sex trafficking organizations that cater to politicians and the elite in the United States, speculated that Jon Benet Ramsey’s death was tied to one of those organizations and that the Clinton DOJ under Janet Reno - a woman he and the sheriff of Dade County referred to as a “predatory lesbian” - did everything they could to undermine ongoing child sex trafficking investigations.

If you choose to believe this is a “conspiracy theory” and that child sex trafficking is limited to India, Bangladesh, Thailand, the Caribbean, Macau, etc., you’re delusional and probably think none of your fine, upstanding “community leaders” are involved in drug trafficking either.


39 posted on 12/11/2018 4:50:13 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: ManHunter

Where’s Robocop when you need him? He took care of bidness on those corrupt goobermint basturds!


40 posted on 12/11/2018 5:07:26 AM PST by Gasshog ( Fight climate change - Try beating the air and scream at the sky)
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