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Saw the promo for the 60 minute report on "The Weapon" and somehow knew it would be full of lies and misrepresentations. I knew also better than to watch it. If it can save one TV------------
1 posted on 11/05/2018 7:17:48 AM PST by rktman
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That’s ok. They’ll come back and apologize!


2 posted on 11/05/2018 7:20:05 AM PST by albie
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I went out shooting this weekend. Me and my friend were shooting 308. We struck up an conversation with another shooter who had a long range rifle chambered in 338 Lapua and he let us shoot a magazine out of it. I finished up the day by shooting a couple of mags from my AR-15 and after shooting those other rifles it felt like shooting a BB gun.


3 posted on 11/05/2018 7:22:26 AM PST by circlecity
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Quick - what is this?


4 posted on 11/05/2018 7:22:32 AM PST by polymuser (Its terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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The main reason the shooters use the AR-15 is that they know it will gain them more notariety due to the fact that the media will go nuts.


5 posted on 11/05/2018 7:24:18 AM PST by Brilliant
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When facts don't backup the narrative, they stay with the narrative.

Most in the media think this is an AR-15


12 posted on 11/05/2018 7:26:42 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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Each and every day we are provided trainloads of proof that journalists are around 51 cards short of a full deck.


13 posted on 11/05/2018 7:26:46 AM PST by Da Coyote
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They also referred to “AR-15 bullets.”

As if there’s a specific bullet for that weapon platform.

No mention of all the anti psychotic meds the shooters were on or how it effected them.


15 posted on 11/05/2018 7:28:38 AM PST by TigerClaws
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Good points in the article. Cherry picking of the facts by CBS as always. Compare apples to apples and rifles to rifles for one thing. I thought there were actually complaints about the M-16 round in Vietnam because it was not nearly as effective as the AK’s used by the NVA. It had more accuracy and range, but needed to tumble to cause damage.


16 posted on 11/05/2018 7:28:42 AM PST by throwback (The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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It’s the one. It fuels their fantasies. No time for facts.


18 posted on 11/05/2018 7:29:21 AM PST by MarMema (don't forget to stock up on dogfood)
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This is why they’re See-BS. Remove seditious traitors from this country.


19 posted on 11/05/2018 7:32:29 AM PST by WKUHilltopper
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The A-Team swore by them. Good enough for me.


25 posted on 11/05/2018 7:36:54 AM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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Two airplanes and WTC 9/11 beats that.


28 posted on 11/05/2018 7:38:34 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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No, they did not *inaccurately name* it.

They outright lied.


33 posted on 11/05/2018 8:01:57 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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Just more fake news. Aren’t these people a sorry bunch.


35 posted on 11/05/2018 8:04:20 AM PST by Retvet (Retvet)
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Remember when the AK-47s was the bad boy? The news media showed how deadly they were when they shot a water melon. Problem was, the bullets only punched holes in the melon, so they rigged up another melon and using a different firearm and soft nose bullets got the melon to explode.

That night on the news you see a man shoot an AK, then cut to a melon exploding.


36 posted on 11/05/2018 8:18:08 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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It doesn’t matter. It’s 2018, in America the AR-15 is synonymous with Gun. It’s not going anywhere.

The Commercially available AR-15 is a semi-automatic “replica” of a 50 year old military weapon system. It’s basically Gran-Pappy’s shotgun at this point.


48 posted on 11/05/2018 9:25:21 AM PST by The Toll
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I shot my son's Armalite AR-15 for the first time a few months ago. Nice build quality, shoots well.

Honestly, I'll go back to my Garand. Also, too bad the M-14 never came in a 30-06.
50 posted on 11/05/2018 9:33:04 AM PST by farming pharmer
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I don’t have the statistics, but the AR-15 is obviously a popular platform...so the CBS claim is kind of like saying that most car accidents happen within a mile of home. Not surprising since drivers probably spend more “behind the wheel” time driving to and from home than most other places. Your mileage may vary...


59 posted on 11/05/2018 9:46:55 AM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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Save this for your lib "friends" that hate guns. This was a comment on the 60 minutes prog that left out some "facts".

There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. The U.S. population is 324,059,091 as of June 22, 2016. Do the math: 0.000000925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant! What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:

• 65% of those deaths are by suicide, which would never be prevented by gun laws.

• 15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified.

• 17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons – better known as gun violence.

• 3% are accidental discharge deaths.

So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 5,100. Still too many? Now lets look at how those deaths spanned across the nation.

• 480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago

• 344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore

• 333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit

• 119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior years)

So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause.

This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.

Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course, but understand, it is not guns causing this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So if all cities and states are not created equal, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.

Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault are all done by criminals. It is ludicrous to think that criminals will obey laws. That is why they are called criminals. But what about other deaths each year?

• 40,000+ die from a drug overdose–THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!

• 36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths.

• 34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide). Now it gets good:

• 200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer walking in the worst areas of Chicago than you are when you are in a hospital!

• 710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It’s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So what is the point? If the liberal loons and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.). A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total number of gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides ................ Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions! So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns? It's pretty simple:

Taking away guns gives control to governments. The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.

Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs. So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed."

61 posted on 11/05/2018 9:48:55 AM PST by chuckles
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It’s the media’s weapon of choice. They cleverly advertise to the crazies that they will get their manifesto read on air, the president will speak their name, and there will be endless discussion of the crazy, their life, and “motive”.

Use a 12 ga side by side and the media will pretty much ignore you.


65 posted on 11/05/2018 10:16:05 AM PST by DBrow
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