Posted on 10/29/2018 9:10:42 PM PDT by Salvavida
My Honduran-born wife uses Facebook to keep in touch with her family in Honduras. Many posts are her thoughts on the topic of the day, and immigration and politics are certainly represented in what she posts. A little about my wife, she served as an interviewer inside of a US Consulate in Latin America, and is thoroughly familiar with immigration law, the process, and the plight of those wishing to visit or immigrate to the US. She is 100% against illegal immigration. Why? Among other things, she also served as a finance officer of a hospital in Northern Virginia, and saw it change hands as a result of immigrants using the Emergency Room as their primary care, and the draining of the charitable foundations that are typically put aside for Americans that cannot pay. My wife gets it. She knows where blessing comes from: American hearts and their taxes.
Naturally, her family responds to the posts and I thought it might be informative to the readership to know the mind of an average middle class family from Honduras. Note that in the past 20 years, my wife and I paid for medical school, law school, and refrigeration vocational-tech school.
A. Here is a summation of the responses from various family members, I distilled them into these main ideas:
- 1. Her family is upset that she is not "in solidarity" with them, and my wife "forgot where she came from."
- 2. They assert the migrants just want to work and to flee the gang violence.
- 3. Hondurans cannot change their government-- it's too corrupt, so the US is their only hope..
- 4. They generally had no concept of how Americans thought about this-- they are thinking it's POTUS and a minority. (Comment- This is courtesy of the leftist press there as well.)
- 5. From their point of view, everyone knows friends or family members here, and know they live a life substantially better than they will ever have. So what has changed to cause a border confrontation?
(Hint: DJT's politics)
B. Here are implications that were not considered from their arguments:
- 1. Law breaking. The end justifies the mean, situational ethics.
- 2. No understanding of the concept of taxes (most Central Americans are not taxed- a Value Added Tax (VAT) is added onto most sales, nor the financial burden Americans have (welfare, medical, children's schools, etc) shouldered.
- 3. No respect for what Americans have built, and what was sacrificed. They want to partake because being poor sucks.
C. How are illegals able to stay (everyone knows this from the immigrant side, it's the Americans that need education):
There are no consequences.
No government form of ID is required to get housing.
No one comes after an over-stayed visa.
Access to school is free.
Saturation of pro-immigrant lawyers in the US.
D. Conclusion: The time has come to where migrants want your stuff, and there is nothing detering them. They have abandoned being citizens of their own countries. They are incapable of governing themselves, and being governed. They certainly do not think like Americans nor anything in which we value. Their system doesn't produce responsible, moral citizens. It produces a people that wants stuff. And they want it now.
They need to get Spain to give them Spain’s stuff.
Thank you! Nothing beats an inside account. Confirmed a lot of my suspicions.
Take care.
Thank you for your informative post.
Selfish, demanding, American hating, pugnacious arrogant beggars.
Thanks for the insight.
Many from countries around the world come here and then spend the rest of their lives trying to convert their little piece of the US into the same kind of s*ithole they left.
Why don’t they want to stay in Mexico where they share a language?
From my experience, they would find everything they want from the US simply by going to Costa Rica. I wonder why the caravan did not decide to do this?
Actually I know, because they would be met with force.
Thank you for posting. I found it very informative.
I hope you don’t mind I sent this to you Jim.
Mexico does not have the Uncle Sugar gravy train.
Most astute point i've seen all day. I say this often myself.
Thanks...no understanding of asylum in first country either. America or bust?
Interesting post. Thanks.
We either repel this invasion or surrender. Case closed.
Thank you for this helpful insight.
Your conclusion is right on.
Oh, so you’re back again, eh?
Opportunity here is much greater than Mexico. Language isn’t the issue— there are 16 million illegals here already, they have their own communities.
Thank you for posting this very interesting thread header.
All stated has been pretty much my take on the situation and along the way and how I see the people and have heard those who have been interviewed etc. as well.
What could these people have accomplished and could have accomplished had they gathered like this in mass before their government demanding what they instead are demanding of the US???
Sadly and as you have stated ....they want it now with no thought to the future people of their country nor the familes still there.
I cannot find any empathy for their plight when they could have done this before their own government.
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