Posted on 10/28/2018 8:59:45 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
I see you’re a devout Christian of one persuasion or another. While I believe in God I don’t hang on every word in the Bible as being the indisputable truth. It was written by men. Organized religion is great for teaching the basic fundamentals of right and wrong but it was also written to control mass populations to keep them in line.
I’ll stick with the facts as I see and understand them. You, as always, are free to follow whatever doctrine suits you.
One fact is many Jewish people in America are secular Jews; not the Jews you write about. A very different breed.
You can’t explain your position more because it is silly and fails to understand basic reality. You CANNOT force businesses to carry all traffic. It runs into ALL the problems I already pointed out. They CANNOT serve all customers. Even the lunch counter can refuse service.
Freedom of speech has ALWAYS ended at property. And it MUST continue to be that. You cannot force your message onto somebody’s wall, paper, stage, hard drive or T1 line. And that is a good thing. We all loved it when The Dixie Chick were losing record contracts and radio play. In your new “all traffic” world that wouldn’t happen. Your all traffic model is not only logistically impossible, it’s the tyranny of the minority. It’s just plain a bad idea no matter how you slice it.
‘Free speech’ social platform Gab has gone offline:
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3700844/posts
Only temporarily. Will be back likely this week sometime. Had to move the site to another server provider.
Gab has spent the past 48 hours proudly working with the DOJ and FBI to bring justice to an alleged terrorist. Because of the data we provided, they now have plenty of evidence for their case. In the midst of this Gab has been no-platformed by essential internet infrastructure providers at every level. We are the most censored, smeared, and no-platformed startup in history, which means we are a threat to the media and to the Silicon Valley Oligarchy.
Gab isn’t going anywhere.
It doesn’t matter what you write. It doesn’t matter what the sophist talking heads say on TV. It doesn’t matter what verified nobodies say on Twitter. We have plenty of options, resources, and support. We will exercise every possible avenue to keep Gab online and defend free speech and individual liberty for all people.
You have all just made Gab a nationally recognized brand as the home of free speech online at a time when Silicon Valley is stifling political speech they disagree with to interfere in a US election.
The internet is not reality. TV is not reality. 80% of normal everyday people agree with Gab and support free expression and liberty. The online outrage mob and mainstream media spin machine are the minority opinion. People are waking up, so please keep pointing the finger at a social network instead of pointing the finger at the alleged shooter who holds sole responsibility for his actions.
No-platform us all you want. Ban us all you want. Smear us all you want.
You can’t stop an idea.
As we transition to a new hosting provider Gab will be inaccessible for a period of time. We are working around the clock to get Gab.com back online. Thank you and remember to speak freely.
Andrew Torba, CEO Gab.com
It's time to drop a big government hammer on "private" corporations that want to censor speech. The concerns about doing this are abstract and hypothetical. The damage and dangers caused by doing nothing are quite apparent and real.
Nope. I understand your position quite well. You want to force companies to carry things on their property. That’s a bad idea. And also a clear violation of the 1st. Part of freedom of speech is the freedom to NOT. Their property, their message.
The damage and dangers that would be caused by your idea are beyond measure. Because now you’re giving the government the ability to declare what is and isn’t censorship and punishing companies accordingly. Just look at all the pinheads on the left who want to outlaw disagreeing with global warming, and consider what happens with your idea if they get put in charge. Always ask yourself what the other side would do with your increase in government power, if the idea scares you you know it’s a bad idea.
No you don't. If you did, you wouldn't keep rattling on.
Speech is no one's property.
I'm sighing too, and it's because people want to put forth some abstract theoretical danger to avoid doing anything of real consequence about a very deadly existing danger.
Adam Smith warned about cartels. I wouldn't think I would have to explain Adam Smith to anyone on a conservative website.
I do understand. I also understand that you know you’re wrong, which is why you’re on all insults and not even trying to actually make your case.
BUZZZ Wrong again. As soon as speech hits somebody else’s stuff it IS COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY property. Remember that the next time you change the channel away from a political ad. If you were right that would be illegal.
If you go on someone’s property, the only “right” you have is the right to leave. If they don’t like what you say, they can tell you to leave. And you have to leave.
Not at all. I’ve just argued with you before.
Yes you have. And it’s always the same, you say something stupid, and only use insults after that. We both know you’re full of crap. And this is no exception.
Any communications system which relies on the PUBLIC to participate is not anyone's "property." If you want it to be your property, make it a private club with the public not allowed. If it accepts public speech, it must be forced to accept all of the public's speech, with the usual exceptions regarding illegal speech.
People need to stop regarding communications systems as anyone's property. If they serve the mass public, they are a "commons." If they don't want to be a commons, they need to refrain from soliciting the public.
We wouldn't tolerate any communications system that refused to carry any speech by blacks, and we should not tolerate any communications system that refuses to carry speech for some 40% of the public that regard themselves as conservatives.
Don't want to carry speech? Don't be a communications company.
This thing is a real threat to our lives, our society, and our system of governance. It is akin to private corporations having a monopoly on the air which we all need to breath.
If you regard my having no further patience with you as an insult, that’s on you. So far as I’m concerned, you have earned the pigeonhole into which you’ve been put.
You are aware this site routinely expels posters right? These social media sites are not public utilities. They are not subject to “Common Carrier’ law like telephone service.
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