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Trump's warning to cut aid over migrant caravan gets Honduras's and Guatemala's attention
americanthinker.com ^ | 10/17/2018 | Monica Showalter

Posted on 10/17/2018 9:17:10 AM PDT by rktman

That was quick.

President Trump's vow to cut off all aid to Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador has gotten the attention of at least some of those countries' elites, who are moving to stop the caravan. According to Reuters:

WASHINGTON/ESQUIPULAS, Guatemala (Reuters) – The organizer of a migrant caravan from Honduras was detained in Guatemala on Tuesday as the U.S. government threatened to withdraw aid from both countries and El Salvador if the flow of migrants north to the United States was not stopped.

Apparently, they believe him. Someone must have been on the phone with the Palestinian Authority.

An incurious press has declined to report on who is financing the caravan or its leader who got detained, or why those migrants in the photos have such new-looking clothes, for that matter, but in the past, such caravans were bankrolled by George Soros-financed front groups and actually called the "Soros Express."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hondurascaravan; trespassing; undocs
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To: GOPJ
They better move fast - because we can do more than stop giving them money - we can target their ‘elites’ for financial ruin. Enough is enough...

I've traveled down there and the political elites live within high wall, secured communities in what would only be considered above median homes in Denver. They are extremely vulnerable and protection doesn't come cheaply.

21 posted on 10/17/2018 9:34:08 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: GOPJ
we can target their ‘elites’ for financial ruin.

This is wholesale Human Trafficking

Just apply Trumps EO of 12/21/17

Executive Order Blocking the Property of Persons Involved in Serious Human Rights Abuse or Corruption

Law & Justice

Issued on: December 21, 2017

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.) (NEA), the Global Magnitsky Human Rights Accountability Act (Public Law 114-328) (the “Act”), section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (8 U.S.C. 1182(f)) (INA), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,

I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, find that the prevalence and severity of human rights abuse and corruption that have their source, in whole or in substantial part, outside the United States, such as those committed or directed by persons listed in the Annex to this order, have reached such scope and gravity that they threaten the stability of international political and economic systems. Human rights abuse and corruption undermine the values that form an essential foundation of stable, secure, and functioning societies; have devastating impacts on individuals; weaken democratic institutions; degrade the rule of law; perpetuate violent conflicts; facilitate the activities of dangerous persons; and undermine economic markets. The United States seeks to impose tangible and significant consequences on those who commit serious human rights abuse or engage in corruption, as well as to protect the financial system of the United States from abuse by these same persons.

I therefore determine that serious human rights abuse and corruption around the world constitute an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States, and I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat.

Section 1. (a) All property and interests in property that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of any United States person of the following persons are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in:

(i) the persons listed in the Annex to this order;

(ii) any foreign person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Attorney General:

(A) to be responsible for or complicit in, or to have directly or indirectly engaged in, serious human rights abuse;

22 posted on 10/17/2018 9:35:13 AM PDT by spokeshave2 (The Paradigm has shifted...the New World Order is Trumpian.)
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To: spokeshave2

Dear President D. J. Trump..in this connection, kindly apply your EO of 12/21/2017....sincerely yours...Spokeshave.


23 posted on 10/17/2018 9:39:02 AM PDT by spokeshave2 (The Paradigm has shifted...the New World Order is Trumpian.)
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To: rktman

Let them get the caravan stopped, then cut the aid anyway. Enough of America financing the whole world. Why should I pay taxes to support everyone else but me?


24 posted on 10/17/2018 9:42:11 AM PDT by Envisioning (Carry safe, always carry, everyday, everywhere.)
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To: Envisioning

WHY DO WE SEND AID TO THESE BASTARDS?


25 posted on 10/17/2018 9:43:53 AM PDT by angcat (THANK YOU LORD FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!!!)
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To: StolarStorm

Arrest him? He and his Son are both a serious threat to our National Security and need to have their US assets locked up and then be taken out period. Just like Osama Bin Laden. And right now is the best time to make a point.


26 posted on 10/17/2018 9:47:44 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: rktman

27 posted on 10/17/2018 9:48:58 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 32:12)
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To: rktman

I love having a real American as President of the United States.


28 posted on 10/17/2018 9:55:11 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: grania
Very good and often neglected point.

These countries have a very small number of intelligent and adequately trained and educated people and that means there are simply not enough high functioning and competent people to keep their countries running properly

This is especially true in Africa.

In the 1960s and 70s enormous effort was made to educate and train native Africans to form a nucleus of a technical and managerial talent to replace the exiting colonial being forced to leave after the ex colonial countries were given independence

This group of people was almost totally wiped out by African AIDS epidemic and Africa has never recovered

29 posted on 10/17/2018 10:05:01 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Obadiah
I call them "MAMs", short for Military Age Males.

Where have we seen this before.......

30 posted on 10/17/2018 10:13:08 AM PDT by thescourged1
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To: spokeshave2

Section 1. (a) All property and interests in property that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of any United States person of the following persons are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in:

(i) the persons listed in the Annex to this order;

(ii) any foreign person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Attorney General:

(A) to be responsible for or complicit in, or to have directly or indirectly engaged in, serious human rights abuse;

Thanks! It's a plan... they send us their riff-raff - we bankrupt 'em...

31 posted on 10/17/2018 10:17:36 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats protect MS-13, Open Borders and Criminals. Our side wants JOBS NOT MOBS....)
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To: LittleBillyInfidel
I've traveled down there and the political elites live within high wall, secured communities in what would only be considered above median homes in Denver. They are extremely vulnerable and protection doesn't come cheaply.

If we target 'the elites' for financial ruin - after all the crap they've given their citizens AND US over the years - it won't be pretty. But I'm damn sick of taking the spill-over of their corruption and greed. They can reform their hellholes or deal with their angry citizens 'cause we're NOT taking them anymore. (Next year the Wall, after that it's war)

32 posted on 10/17/2018 10:22:19 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats protect MS-13, Open Borders and Criminals. Our side wants JOBS NOT MOBS....)
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To: GOPJ
we can target their ‘elites’ for financial ruin.

I bet very few of them wish to undergo a Treasury Dept. anal exam looking for financial crimes.


33 posted on 10/17/2018 10:24:54 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rdcbn
These countries have a very small number of intelligent and adequately trained and educated people and that means there are simply not enough high functioning and competent people to keep their countries running properly This is especially true in Africa.

In that sense you really have to give it to India. They have managed to do a pretty decent job educating a wide swath of their population, including women. It's one reason they are able to maintain a stable democracy as compared to African or Latin American countries.


34 posted on 10/17/2018 10:44:09 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rdcbn
I'm fascinated by what causes civilization and what destroys it. Take that time in Europe between the Fall of the Roman Empire (actually a multi-tiered effect of the collapse of Roman domination) and the Battle of Hastings, which is when Europe began looking like the Europe we knew until the EU. In many places, it took about two generations before the skills to maintain civilization unraveled. The Caribbean and Africa have shown no talent for maintaining the imposed western culture. Mideast stability without a firm hand is not possible. Afghanistan and Pakistan?....it would make more sense to keep the nutcases locked in their country than trying to westernize them.

It's interesting to delve into. Globalism cannot thrive unless cultural identities are erased. It's that whole darn Illuminati thing. I do believe in that conspiracy; there are those who see benefit for their inner circle to erasing the identity and initiative of everyone else.

35 posted on 10/17/2018 10:47:03 AM PDT by grania ("You don't give power to an angry left wing mob")
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To: rktman

As I undersand it, Mexico is going to take some action at the Guatemala border.

The illegals are still in Guatamala ande a leader(s) has been detained.

The question now is what happens to what amounts to a leaderless mob?


36 posted on 10/17/2018 10:47:03 AM PDT by bert ((KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Muller..... conspiracy to over throw the government)
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To: bert
The question now is what happens to what amounts to a leaderless mob?

They show up at some restaurant to harass Ted Cruz.


37 posted on 10/17/2018 10:48:05 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Reno89519

“The message needs to be directed to Mexico.”

There was no doubt a long running discussion of strategies to control immigration during the NAFTA/USMCA negotiations.

I’d guess that this is part of a broader “all of the above” approach.


38 posted on 10/17/2018 10:48:20 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: bert

Meth-eek-OH taking action? Leaving the gates open and unguarded?


39 posted on 10/17/2018 10:49:23 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Liz
for those of us visually challenged


40 posted on 10/17/2018 10:49:41 AM PDT by bert ((KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Muller..... conspiracy to over throw the government)
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