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How Strong Does the Evidence Against Kavanaugh Need to Be?
Failing NYT ^

Posted on 09/21/2018 6:49:38 AM PDT by TigerClaws

The allegation made by Christine Blasey Ford — that at age 15 she was the victim of a sexual assault by a 17-year-old Brett Kavanaugh — has not only upended Judge Kavanaugh’s Supreme Court confirmation hearings, but has also left Americans wondering what standards should apply to an accusation like this.

It’s natural to place this sort of accusation within a criminal-justice framework: the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt; the presumption of innocence; the right to confront and respond to an accuser. If Judge Kavanaugh stood criminally accused of attempted rape, all of that would apply with full force. But those concepts are a poor fit for Supreme Court confirmation hearings, where there’s no presumption of confirmation, and there’s certainly no burden that facts be established beyond a reasonable doubt.

What matters here isn’t law as much as politics — though not (or not just) partisan politics. Confirmation hearings are also about constitutional politics — the debate, involving both institutions of government and the polity, about what the Constitution means and requires.

So what standard should the Senate use in evaluating the claims made by Dr. Blasey and in deciding how they bear on Judge Kavanaugh’s fitness for a seat on the Supreme Court? The Senate’s approach to its constitutional “advice and consent” obligation has always depended on context. A number of factors matter: the timing of the vacancy; the justice being replaced; the nominee’s likely impact on the ideological makeup of the court; even the popularity of the president (very popular presidents have always had more leeway when it comes to picking justices). Then, of course, there’s the nominee.

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1 posted on 09/21/2018 6:49:38 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Beyond a reasonable doubt. Which they are not even close to producing.


2 posted on 09/21/2018 6:50:44 AM PDT by DarthVader ("The biggest misconception on Free Republic is that the Deep State is invulnerable")
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To: TigerClaws

WHAT EVIDENCE?


3 posted on 09/21/2018 6:51:17 AM PDT by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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To: TigerClaws

Stronger than a ‘He said - she said’ and with multiple witnesses.............


4 posted on 09/21/2018 6:52:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (Q..........................Future Proves Past..............WWG1WGA.....................)
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To: TigerClaws
For questions regarding the "strength" of evidence to have any meaning, evidence must first exist.

The only available evidence in the Blowsy-Fraud allegations suggests that the allegations are entirely fabricated. She's lying.

5 posted on 09/21/2018 6:52:44 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: TigerClaws

Well.. to start with, the evidence should exist in the first place... which in this case it doesn’t.


6 posted on 09/21/2018 6:53:14 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Liberals, piss off. That is all.)
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To: TigerClaws

Strong enough to convince any reasonable U.S. Senator that Kavanaugh isn’t qualified to sit on the Court. This isn’t a legal proceeding.


7 posted on 09/21/2018 6:53:24 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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How about some evidence instead of zero ?


8 posted on 09/21/2018 6:54:06 AM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: TigerClaws

First we need evidence.


9 posted on 09/21/2018 6:54:14 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Ruth Bader Ginsburg doctor is a taxidermist.)
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To: grobdriver
WHAT EVIDENCE?

Forget all that.

It’s the Seriousness of the Charge.

10 posted on 09/21/2018 6:54:26 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Are you Humbly Grateful or Grumbly Hateful?)
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To: DarthVader

How about providing some credible evidence that this might be plausible. That is not enough to derail someone’s life and career, but they haven’t even met this minimal standard.


11 posted on 09/21/2018 6:55:03 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: grobdriver

Byron York
?Verified account @ByronYork
49m49 minutes ago

Just in case: In NYT, law professor argues Ford allegation against Kavanaugh doesn’t have to actually be true to disqualify him for SCOTUS. ‘Credible’ is good enough. ‘The existence of credible allegations against Judge Kavanaugh should be disqualifying

The accusation is enough.

Look at the Deep State ties of the accuser. Her dad was allegedly a cia bagman.


12 posted on 09/21/2018 6:55:20 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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The reasonable and rational doubt is the detailed description of the house near the airport and the football player resident that resembles Brett.

Absent any believable testimony to the contrary, the mentioned facts are not only real and true but damning


13 posted on 09/21/2018 6:55:22 AM PDT by bert ((KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Muller..... conspiracy to over throw the government)
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To: TigerClaws

It doesn’t take a very good nose to SMELL a Democrat stunt.


14 posted on 09/21/2018 6:55:26 AM PDT by CMailBag
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To: NorthMountain
The options are:

1. She's lying outright (most likely).
2. She's imagining something that never happened, but has convinced herself it did.
3. Something like that happened but the boy in question was someone else, not Kavanaugh.

15 posted on 09/21/2018 6:55:27 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: TigerClaws

Well, even Bill Clinton’s semen on a blue dress from a sexual act in the Oval Office with an intern during working hours was not enough evidence to uphold impeachment for Democrats, so the bar for evidence must be very high.


16 posted on 09/21/2018 6:55:31 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: TigerClaws

This whole thing is silly why would you disqualify him even if he did this when he was stumbling drunk as she described and he was 17 years old when he has led an exemplary life? Republicans should never have considered this disqualifying it’s a ridiculous teenage story from a party.


17 posted on 09/21/2018 6:56:48 AM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: TigerClaws

Well let’s see, if YOUR life and the lives of your family was about to be destroyed because someone recovered a 3 year old memory and then sat n it for another six, what standard would YOU want applied?


18 posted on 09/21/2018 6:56:49 AM PDT by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jeffersons)
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To: TigerClaws

This is not a he said she said. They have a witness. He said it did not happen. She is not a witness. She can’t remember anything about the event. So there is no evidence that something happened. And every psychiatrist will tell you that repressed memories are very misleading and often faulty.

That is why the press is not talking to her. They are talking to the democrat party lawyers who accredit it to Ford. But Ford MIA.


19 posted on 09/21/2018 6:56:50 AM PDT by poinq
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To: TigerClaws

No surprises in either the author’s conclusion, it the first dozen comments. It is the NYT, after all.


20 posted on 09/21/2018 6:57:06 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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