Posted on 09/18/2018 5:05:22 AM PDT by ladyL
I feel compelled to get something off my chest this morning about a profession I hold in high regard. I am a retired polygraph examiner and administered several thousand polygraph examinations during my career. I also was a Director and instructor of a national Polygraph School. The fact that Dr. Ford took a polygraph test and was said to have passed means nothing to me. Can a polygraph test be beat? Yes...it sure can. Actually the polygraph can't be beat the polygraph examiner can. As in a critical medical diagnosis, a second opinion is necessary for professional efficacy so too a polygraph test should be administered by two separate examiners following proper protocol. This most likely did not occur with Dr. Ford. She, with her Psychological background easily could have applied the principles of fight or flight utilized in a polygraph exam to give a false reading on her exam. So, no I put no weight on Dr. Ford's polygraph test but I do hold to polygraph tests, administered properly are accurate.
Ford would know about things like Beta blockers too.
There is a good reason that polygraph evidence is not admissible in a court of law. Polygraph results are not always reliable .
I don’t care what your rigged question is. I do not answer questions from faulty premises.
I have oversaw people, under my authority, who went to jail, directly from my ordered polygraph results. I know how the game works, appeal to authority & intimidation.
I also know that national heart scientists, who do the studies, say the only valid heart number is an average over a long period of time.
That heart fact invalidates polygraph, medical records, and health certifications from Government official “Authority” Departments.
Polygraph is a game of intimidation.
Kavanaugh is the current game played.
You are playing your own intimidation game on me, that only yes answers to your arbitrary question will be the only approved correct answer.
State workers are the worst with their authoritarian conformity. But in the end, they are not experts, just agents of the State, working for the State.
Truth is if a parent has a young teenager, tell them to NEVER confess to a crime. Instead go directly to a lawyer.
Notice they did not ask about specific aspects of the allegations, just a summary.
The point I am making is that there is much more to a polygraph than just the test, the real test is an experienced and knowledgeable interviewer who knows what questions to ask and how to ask them to prepare for the actual polygraph.. And FWIW, if you have never been a subject to a criminal investigation and have never been under the scrutiny of a polygraph surrounding that investigation, then you have no idea what the psychological aspect is of a polygraph, only as to what you have read in some book.And for what it is worth, I would never subject myself to another polygraph even knowing I was 100% innocent as I was in the past.
You should NOT believe her. She's a leftist, therefore she's a liar.
With biofeedback training a polygraph itself can be beat.
I know. I’ve done it.
I made my correctly stated name look like I was lying. And made every answer to every question look like I was lying...to include silent times between questions.
I call BS when you say it cannot be beaten. It can be made worthless, and that’s beaten.
BINGO !
1) Corporate America plays a vicious game of sign away your lawful rights.
2) Void your Bill of Rights.
3) Lawful court is banned and substituted by their own Corporate court, a rigged negotiation scheme.
4) Take a polygraph to authorize your guilt.
5) Corporate America will send the Innocent to prison, on fake charges, fake evidence under their rigged fake justice scam, where the real employee will stay in real prison.
Buyer beware. See a real lawyer instead.
Your company ain’t your daddy or your friend.
I saw one lady who looked plain and drab, next door neighbor type. Her attorney wanted her tested as she was charged with homicide. Her husband was in ICU due to arsenic poisoning with a feeding tube. He died from poisoning. Her polygraph was completely “Truthful” and she was lying all the way through it. It was only through skillful interrogation did she admit to the rat poisoning she put in pudding and fed him in the hospital. Later her two deceased children were exhumed and found to also have been poisoned. This was a sociopath...no conscience. Then we had the everyday thief and liar like Ruby who I took a 17 page confession from admitting to stealing and giving away several thousand dollars of cash and clothing from where she worked and as she is signing the confession she looked at me and asked “Do you think Mr.-— is going to fire me for this?” Her polygraph was clean but I had other evidence and a gut feel to interrogate, so yes there are many factors that influence the results of a polygraph.
Thank you...
Usually there are no physiological reactions, heart beat increase, respiration rate and range change, Galvanic skin response reaction as there is no fear present in the sociopath to lying...that is usually. Then there is the wild, inconclusive readings of ragged respiration, rapid heart rate, GSR all over the place...these also can occur. Each exam and person calls for close individual analysis.
“Experienced and knowledgeable” interviwer or examiner, is your premise. And that premise is flawed.
If a naive person gives up their human lawful rights for a faulty premise, they have a problem.
Dad, I wrongly went to prison for 5 years, but at least the interview was Experienced and Knowledgeable, so I will feel good in wrongful prison.
A lawyer is a far superior choice over a Corporate scam.
And Kavanaugh too is victim of a polygraph scam. It is to set up a fake legitimacy and substitute away his Godly lawful rights.
I agree.
I agree however I will say if I were innocent I would take a polygraph in a heartbeat from a professional examiner with a good reputation.
F.Lee Bailey, one of the top Criminal lawyers at one time, of the OJ Simpson trial would NEVER take on a client unless they agreed to a polygraph first. He was a strong proponent of the polygraph.
I agree... she made the accusation and threw a monkey wrench into the nomination process, so she should be forced to account for it.
Good post.
At a point in my career I took a number of start up polys and then follow ups every 6 months.
Polys measure anxiety, nothing more. I flunked a few, answering truthfully, then retested successfully.
Modern polys use a -5 to +10 scoring to minimize cheating by sociopaths and drug users. With the best score being a 3. Negatives show deception by being too calm, or someone under the influence.
The greatest variable is the experience and discipline of the examiner. I have asked for a blind 2nd opinion of the results by another examiner and the scoring was sometimes different.
The best examiners are very careful to elevate the base line throughout the test as anxiety tends to increase as a matter of fatigue.
That is critical along with a rest period between questions and limiting the subject matter to a max of three different subjects with several minutes between subject groups.
Ask the examiner if they have ever scored someone as inconclusive. If so, stop the exam and get someone else.
Finally, ask for and get a copy of the poly readout and an audio tape. The examiner may mismark the answer response time window.
If you distrust the competence of the examiner, there is no harm, only benefit to stopping the exam and getting another.
The one solution is to give both Ford and Kavanaugh comparative polygraphs by the same approved examiner. I hope this happens. It will resolve the issue. Nothing else will. But I’ll bet you Ford will refuse.
Summary: I was somewhere,with some people and something maybe bad happened. But I can’t remember details.
I can beat any polygraph.
FBI and DIA agree.
And I am not a sociopath or psychopath.
I have been trained to control galvanic skin response, and Zen which allows substantial control over heart rate and respiration.
Oddly, it was not government training, but something I picked up at the local community college.
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