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It's Socialism vs. Trump after Massive Turnout In Florida’s Tuesday Primary
The Revolutionary Act ^ | 08/29/18

Posted on 08/29/2018 8:50:10 AM PDT by Liberty7732

Florida is the largest swing state in the union and possibly the most demographically representative with transplants from the Northeast and Midwest, along with natives of the South. Plus it’s the third largest state after California and Texas, which are not as representative.

That makes the results of Tuesday’s primaries so intriguing to the tea-leaf reading set. In this case we can see some real actual trends, because it is not just one special election that both sides were trying to make into a national referendum — it’s a mini three-quarters of America.

One big takeaway: The establishment, “centrist” portions of both parties lost big time. The Democrats went all in on the surging socialism elements of the Party while Trump remains a monstrous force in the Republican Party. That looks like the war shaping up in November, as the Democratic base moves toward the surging Bernie Sanders-Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wing of the Party and Republicans continue to move toward the strong America First Trump wing.

Second big takeaway: Everyone is jazzed up. The off-year Florida primary broke records across the state for any primary this century — with higher turnout even than in presidential election years. Importantly, the increase is in both parties. The Democratic turnout is up more than the Republican turnout, but in the red areas of Florida, there was a record number of people voting Tuesday.

This is relatively unheard of in off election years and what it portends for November is not so easy to determine. One would have to give an edge to Democrats for historic reasons and greater increase in turnout reasons. However, what we know for sure is that everything could change tomorrow. Mueller could issue his report and who knows what all else. What’s clear is that Trump is turning out Democrats, but anti-Trump hysteria and socialism is turning out Republicans.

Here are the themes from the demographically representative Florida primaries Tuesday:

Trump remains a very powerful force in the GOP In the race between long-time presumed Republican gubernatorial candidate Adam Putnam, a favorite of the GOP establishment, and one-time longshot Congressman Ron DeSantis, a favorite of President Trump and the Trump wing of the GOP, DeSantis pulled off not just an upset but a landslide upset.

DeSantis was an early Trump supporter and spent a lot of time on Fox News defending the President and attacking his critics. This is something Trump likes and rewards. Going into the election process, DeSantis was not well-known outside of his Congressional district while Putnam had strong name recognition and a ground game that had been built over many years through the GOP. He’s conservative, but definitely seen as establishment.

Eight weeks ago, Putnam was polling with solid and consistent leads of 15 to 18 percent over DeSantis. After Trump endorsed DeSantis on Twitter and then went to Tampa for a DeSantis rally, the polling flipped by an astonishing 30 percentage points and DeSantis won the primary 56 percent to 36 percent. Not even close.

That’s the power of Trump in the GOP. We’ll find out in a few months the power of Trump in a general election.

Socialism ascends in Democratic Party with nomination of Andrew Gillum

Former Congresswoman Gwen Graham, daughter of popular former Governor and Senator Bob Graham, was ahead in the polls going into the primary Tuesday. Wealthy candidates out of Miami spent about $70 million combined trying to pass her. But Gillum worked the grass roots, the black turnout, and the socialist/progressive wing and pulled off an upset that left the pollsters, pundits and media embarrassed. No one saw it — other than a little known but growing outfit of anti-Trumpsters called Change Research. They nailed it.

Graham was seen more as an establishment Democrat in the same way that Putnam was as a Republican. In fact, until Trump’s entry, it was widely believed this would be a race between those two. But the establishment in both parties is being rapidly neutered and that was obvious by Tuesday night.

Gillum spent the least of the five major candidates in his primary race and was barely seen on TV — important elements in a state with 21 million people with at least four major metro areas. He relied on a grassroots campaign, the support of the furthest left in the party and the socialism appeal of Sanders and Ocassio-Cortez to beat four other candidates, including Graham.

Gillum is young at 39, and was endorsed by socialist former Sen. Bernie Sanders and Democratic Socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. He was the heavy favorite among Democrats who called themselves progressives. He was supported by California billionaire environmental extremist Tom Steyer. And President Trump wasted no time in going after him this morning as a “failed socialist,” tweeting out:

“Not only did Congressman Ron DeSantis easily win the Republican Primary, but his opponent in November is his biggest dream….a failed Socialist Mayor named Andrew Gillum who has allowed crime & many other problems to flourish in his city. This is not what Florida wants or needs!”

In addition to the socialism label, there are some threats moving forward with Gillum. The FBI is conducting an ongoing investigation of corruption among Tallahassee city officials (it is a long-time Democrat-run city) and no one — including Gillum — has been cleared of anything yet. Will the FBI pull a James Comey and act politically? Who can say in this environment. But that looms out there. Expect the DeSantis camp and allies to use it.

Final point. Gillum was not seen as a threat to win among any of the major candidates, and as such, he received virtually no attack ads and minimal scrutiny by the media and other candidates. That will not be the case in the next few months. (Except for the media part, of course.) A lot will come to light that has hitherto been hidden.

Flipping the Florida U.S. Senate seat just got harder

Everyone nationally is watching the races for Congress, and in this too, Tuesday’s results give the lay of the land.

The race between Gov. Rick Scott and long-time incumbent seat-warmer Sen. Bill Nelson was seen as a strong opportunity for Republicans to pick up a Senate seat and give them a cushion by flipping it to red. However, that goal just got tougher. Having Andrew Gillum, the first black gubernatorial candidate to win his party’s primary, at the top of the Florida ballot will likely ensure high black turnout from the Democratic Party as they can feel something historic to be excited about. It could be a similar dynamic for Florida as was in play in 2008 with Barack Obama.

Bill Nelson excited no black voter ever — well, no voter ever. He is a reliable Democratic vote whose 40 years in Washington have netted virtually no legacy beyond a warm D seat. Scott currently has a small lead in the contest. But Gillum’s presence will almost assuredly deliver votes to Nelson, next on the ballot, that he would not have otherwise received. Flipping the seat is now more difficult to pull off.


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1 posted on 08/29/2018 8:50:10 AM PDT by Liberty7732
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To: Liberty7732

When you run on “America First” Florida is the only swing state left....

and it is trending more and more red in spite of the media circus to the contrary.

If only the GOP would realize this, and capitalize on it... Trump showed them how to turn the upper midwest red for generations, but the GOP seem bound and determined to ignore the lessons.


2 posted on 08/29/2018 8:53:24 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Liberty7732

Why is Socialism winning? Look at Venezuela, Zimbabwe, Cuba, the former USSR. Socialism fails everywhere it is tried. Republicans need to run against Socialism and for America in every race.


3 posted on 08/29/2018 8:57:36 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: Liberty7732

Trump Wins (i.e. DeSantis)

Florida is Trump land...even saw a guy with a Trump engraved license plate in Brevard County.

We all know Dade/Osceola are off the wall places, but the rest of FL...it’s a done deal


4 posted on 08/29/2018 8:58:06 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: FatherofFive
Why is Socialism winning?

In reality it isn't winning. How many states have elected socialist's to state or federal offices? Just because a few more are running dooesn't mean they're winning. A year or three from now? Who knows but certainly not today.

5 posted on 08/29/2018 9:03:13 AM PDT by Ron H. (Pray unceasingly - 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18)
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To: Liberty7732

Liberals versus Americans.


6 posted on 08/29/2018 9:05:28 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: FatherofFive

Because the mass media isn’t talking about Venezuela or Zimbabwe but how bad Trump is.

Talking to my leftist friends is basically anti-Trump message du jour followed by social justice daily message then how their business is doing so well for the first time in years.

Clueless all of them.


7 posted on 08/29/2018 9:10:06 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: Regulator

Brevard is not a reliable indicator since it is already a red county. I voted yesterday and I was the only one there at 1030am. And it was raining cats and dogs yesterday.


8 posted on 08/29/2018 9:10:11 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (MAGA - DRAIN THE SWAMP ! - I love my online family of FReepers.)
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To: FatherofFive

“Why is Socialism winning? Look at Venezuela, Zimbabwe, Cuba, the former USSR. “

I know a liberal, former felon, using Medicaid. For some reason that’s not clear, he feels entitled to lots of free things. If I question why he should feel entitled, he gets spitting mad, so I never found out the answer. He will support any Democrat. There’s no possibility of reasoning on that point, as he gets emotional and there’s no logic after that. (His IQ is probably 130. He can work amazing problems in his head, but it doesn’t cross over into politics and appears to have no practical use.)

So, the short answer is, some people are emotional and feel entitled. Somehow, Democrats either created that situation, or they found it and tapped into it.


9 posted on 08/29/2018 9:12:47 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...

Florida Freeper

I'm compiling a list of FReepers interested in Florida-related topics.
If you want to be added, please FReepMail me.

10 posted on 08/29/2018 9:14:19 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Those with intellect bear the burden of thought.)
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To: Ron H.
Not one of those Socialist candidates ever thought enough of their socialist philosophy to actually live in a socialist country. They are ignorant hypocrites
11 posted on 08/29/2018 9:16:48 AM PDT by Russ
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To: Regulator

His numbers are off. GOP turnout topped Dems in county after county.

Nelson is trailing Scott by 4 points in an election he should be winning.

The only he really got right is that the Trump endorsement is a huge advantage to any candidate....even the weak ones.


12 posted on 08/29/2018 9:17:00 AM PDT by blackberry1
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To: Skywise

Yup. That makes me smile.


13 posted on 08/29/2018 9:18:20 AM PDT by FreeperCell
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To: FatherofFive
Compulsion For Uniformity

Lies Of Socialism

14 posted on 08/29/2018 9:21:48 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: bicyclerepair

interesting because there were over 600K more republican voters in this gubernatorial primary vs 2014


15 posted on 08/29/2018 9:24:19 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Liberty7732

The hopeful news... 1.6m FL GOP Primary voters showed up yesterday, versus only 1.5m FL Dems... that’s 52-48%, if it holds up in ten weeks.


16 posted on 08/29/2018 9:25:25 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: bicyclerepair

see post #12


17 posted on 08/29/2018 9:25:50 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Liberty7732

How many Haitians and how many Puerto Rican Hurricane refugees will be voting in November? Some analysis needs to be done to determine the effect of the influx of so many of these groups.


18 posted on 08/29/2018 9:27:32 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Regulator

You haven’t seen Big Media ramp up its racist campaign against Florida yet.

It’s going to be ALL ABOUT RACE for Florida’s governor, and the racist candidate is fully funded by Soros.


19 posted on 08/29/2018 9:40:12 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: Liberty7732

and Hollywood picked , Socialism


20 posted on 08/29/2018 9:43:13 AM PDT by butlerweave
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