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To: Lurker
Scripture predated the church last time I read the Bible.

Some books of the Bible are of Hebrew origin and predate Christ and His Church. The Holy Scripture as a whole is the product of the Catholic Church.

It is also true that the so-called Protestant Reformation removed some books and mangled some translations. That damage, of course, is not from the Church.

The teaching on the death penalty at all times is and was conssitent with the state of civil jurisprudence. When just and secure incarceration was not possible, the Church tolerated death penalty. Now she doesn't. (Wiki)

I will not enter a discussion on the Bible or the Death penalty beyond this, it is off-topic on the question of homosexual culture in the Church.

241 posted on 08/21/2018 5:06:26 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

“It is also true that the so-called Protestant Reformation removed some books“

Actually that was the Council of Nicea which predates the Reformation by several hundred years.

Nice try, though.

L


244 posted on 08/21/2018 5:11:38 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: annalex

Except for the fact that before Trent is was 100% acceptable for priests and scholars to question the canon, throw books out, and add books.

Try looking at what Luther’s contemporaries Erasmus and Cajetan were writing, with total approval of Rome.


259 posted on 08/21/2018 9:58:45 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: annalex
The Holy Scripture as a whole is the product of the Catholic Church.

True.

Too bad that the TRADITIONS of the church did not get placed into that book; since they POST date it's creation.

328 posted on 08/22/2018 5:18:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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