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Posted on 08/13/2018 9:58:09 AM PDT by dragnet2
The Florida man who invoked the "stand your ground" self-defense after shooting a black man in a dispute over a parking space was charged Monday with manslaughter, officials said.
Michael Drejka, 47, was arrested Monday morning in the fatal shooting in July of Markeis McGlockton in Clearwater, Florida.
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I watched the video, and I saw the assailant pause when he saw the gun. But I didn't see a retreat, and he certainly didn't leave the scene. Why not?
In any case, any backward movement Jumbo made was far too small to demand that someone blind-sided by a body-slam onto concrete be expected to detect it.
But regardless of this incident, since the St. Trayvon case, there seems to be a new criminal offense on the books in many states today: Surviving While White.
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I wasn’t there either.
IF the case is as been reported, HE drove by, saw them parking, turned around and came back, confronted the woman, her ‘man’ came out and confronted the guy, pushed him after some words and was (supposedly) retreating when the guy shot him.
First and foremost, the guy had NO BUSINESS going back, especially while armed.
As long as he is running around and carrying, HE is the poster boy for the ANTIS...he ‘proves their case’ that us Carriers are just running around, picking fights so as to give us an excuse to shoot someone.
If I were in the jury pool, the Prosecutor would definitely ‘expel’ me and the Defense would want me on the panel.
THEY would both be making a major mistake -
AS PRESENTED, I would be going after the Murder conviction not manslaughter (but would settle for it) but all this clown did was keep someone else from shooting the ‘victim’ down the road, if this is his reaction to everything.
MY point being the shooter had no business being where he was when he was there and HE is the instigator.
As stated often on this thread, first ‘rule’ of carry is don’t start anything.
The old ‘don’t start no $hiite and there won’t be any applies to ALL parties in the carry ‘game’.
My first impression watching the video was that it was not a good shoot at all - then the initial stories on how the shooter interjected himself into the parking space situation only reinforced that.
Now we see that this guy was just a POS looking off somebody.
hey watch it...we are surrounded by military and these Florida boys dont mess around...they shoot first and ask questions later
Let me guess, you learned martial arts from your little sister? Not a body slam.
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The sheriff said that no threats were made to the woman in the car (both Drejka and she said that) and that mcglockton didn’t say one word, just shoved him from a blindsided position.
The video makes things look pretty different: The girlfriend isn't hiding out, afraid. She is getting out of the car, yelling, gesticulating, and approaching the old guy. Then Jumbo appears and blind-sides the old guy from his left. The old guy may be a pain in the neck overall, but he had people come him from two directions, one of whom sends him flying onto cement. It's just a Darwin thing.
I doubt the judge will allow any unrelated non-criminal “incidents to be allowed as evidence in a trial- unless the rules of evidence and the nature of the incident being a stand alone issue- a good defense lawyer would object to any thing not directly related to the incident at hand. If objected and over-ruled, a good chance at successful appeal would stand.
Meanwhile, a basketball coach who killed a man for tapping on his car window mistakenly is charged with simple assault.....
Who is this “old guy” you keep referring to? The story states that Drejka is 47, not considered old in our society (and 6 years younger than I am).
Drejka got the attention of EVERYONE in that parking lot. Just watch the whole video.
The little snake is unlucky that the two dudes with the tow truck left before he started the Mitt.
They would have put a stop to his little game, and he would have gone on to confront and road-rage many more days.
Drejka was pretending to be a "sad sack" to fool the people he was confronting, and the police who kept running into him.
Every time the cops gigged him for "brandishing", he lied his socks off.
you should have told us you were there and that’s how you’ve secured all your know it all tidbits.
how do YOU know it wasn’t the girlfriend mouthing off and THAT’s what people were looking at? Hmmmm? there’s no audio; please do inform us how you know so much by knowing so little.
the snake is the thug that tried to kill him when he wasn’t looking. But since you’re most likely black and alot of blacks don’t think other blacks do anything wrong, I guess you don’t see mcglockton doing anything wrong.
Agree. Without the assault, there wouldn’t have been a shooting.
I spent 7 years in the Infantry teaching close quarters combat and have taught SRT teams at prisons. I have personally witnessed how dangerous a person can be at less than 20 feet, even without a weapon. I have witnessed broken jaws, shattered orbital sockets, broken ribs, stitches and concussions requiring emergency room visits etc.
What you are missing is that the law hinges on ability and intent. The “victim” demonstrated both by committing felony assault and battery. The intent is not the “off that dude” but to prevent serious bodily injury to the shooter. All it takes is one kick to send the shooter to the hospital with permanent and potential life threatening injuries. The victim knocked the shooter down, squared up to look like a follow on attack, and only turned away at the moment the gun came out. In less than two eye blinks, the shooter was on the ground, drew and fired.
When evaluating video play it back at normal speed and follow the two blinks rule, in that it normally takes the human brain two blinks to register a change in the environment. I submit that the victim was shot before the shooter even noticed the half step turn away on behalf of the victim.
I would further point out that your idea of a remedy is deprivation of rights and felony assault and battery. That is a very liberal / Democrat view and the exact opposite of what the 2nd amendment was put in place to protect. If the rule of keeping your hands to your self had been followed, there would not be a shooting.
Most video is 24 frames a second which is 0.0416 seconds. Some HD cameras shoot better than that. But it is not likely that a security camera would.
I had the watch the 3 times just to figure out he was arguing with the some one parked out of sight on the other side of the building.
The store owner must be pretty cheap not to have a camera on the other side of the building.
Mmmmm, not exactly. A few decades of decades of Western boxing, plus karate, jiu-jitsu, and some weapons training from Japanese guys who could take out your gizzard or mine with a toothpick. In that context, I've never considered a made-for-TV move like a WWF "body slam" to be an exact thing with a precise form, or maybe a kata, to go with it.
Truthfully, after commenting about this sorry incident so many times on FR, I got tired of saying "hurled him to the ground" or whatever. You don't think it's a body slam? Fine. He slammed his body. Better?
good assessment. there are more libs here at FR than you can even imagine. almost all of them completely ignore what mcglockton did and only focus on the victim’s ALLEGED actions.
At that point the driver was now out of the car and the homie standing there while shooter, on the ground, pulled out his gun and shot the homie who attacked him.
Sorry bro but I'm going with self defense since had the shooter not pulled his gun, it's likely the driver, WHO SHOULD HAVE STAYED IN THE CAR, and the homie were about to do a beat down on the shooter........
INNOCENT!
“A jury should never see or hear about it.
It would be immaterial and prejudicial to the case.”
Yet Mcglockton’s “history” is fair game?
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