Posted on 08/08/2018 5:53:27 AM PDT by Hojczyk
On Tuesday Troy Balderson defeated Democrat Danny OConnor by less than 1% of the vote.
Balderson had 100,052 votes compared to Tiberis 251,266 votes in 2016 or 40% of the 2016 turnout.
Danny OConnor had 98,364 votes on Tuesday compared to 112,638 votes received by Democrat Ed Albertson in 2016 or 87% of the 2016 Turnout.
This should concern Republican party leaders. The GOP to do a better job or Trump is going to face a Democrat Congress ready to impeach him in 2019.
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I agree. A problem with conservative voters is that they can be cantankerous, and not inclined to get out to the polls except once every two years. I think the turnout will improve in November and that some of these close special elections, where the Dems and media were able to focus their resources, will not be nearly this close. It would be nice if people were more patriotic but the reality is that there are fewer engaged activists on the conservative side than on the lib/left side. And at the end of the day, a win is a win.
low GOP turnout isn’t fraud, it is laziness and stupidity.
Exactly right, Alas Babylon!!
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Just in case the uniparty has figured it’s easier to remove/nullify votes than add them, hope someone trusts but verifies that turnout data....
You are so seriously uninformed I dont know where to begin. Do you not realize the Democrats are in full Resistance mode desperately trying to protect the FISA Warrants from becoming public? Do you not realize that Adam Shifty Schiff would become Committee Chairman which means that he would bury all truthful/factual evidence? Do you not realize that the Democrats already have over 60 members who have risen to vote aye on the floor of the House in favor of Impeaching President Trump?
I could go on but Im in a public setting using my iPhone.
“hope someone trusts but verifies that turnout data....”
Heck, I wish all vote tallies were verified. In this case, I’m guessing that the totals will be accepted if the winning candidate exceeds whatever % is required in order to avoid a recount. This one might be close enough for a recount.
An unusual factor in this case is that it was an election that puts someone in Congress. As a result, there was a ton of media attention that wouldn’t happen in a normal election. Throw in that Democrats undoubtedly threw the kitchen sink at their voters and generated an uncommon amount of determination to try to embarrass Trump.
Whatever the result, it would be a mistake to think the anything can be extrapolate from it going into November.
The unofficial (i.e. non-canvassed) numbers I have suggest a few things.
Balderson underperformed Trump in every county in the District — except his home one. Even so, he won five out of seven counties by *double digit* margins. Had he gotten one percent more in Delaware County, it would have been SIX of seven counties.
O’Connor outperformed Clinton in every county except Balderson’s home county. What made this election close, in all probability, is that 1/3rd of the voters live in Franklin County, which includes Columbus.
It’s not 87% of all Democrats and 40% of all Republicans. It’s 87% and 40% of the 2016 turnout.
I realize that.
But 87% of any way you look at it sounds inflated. Especially considering that primaries are not noted for big turnout.
But the 40% republican....a disgrace. With the corruption demonstrated and even admitted to in DC, everyone with any moral compass at all should vote.
The candidate might be a rino, but he can not be worse than Pelosi or Mad Maxine becoming the house leader.
This is really an apples vs. oranges comparison times two, no, times three.
First, he’s comparing 2018 with 2016 which was a presidential election.
Second, he’s comparing a primary/special election with a general election.
And third, he’s comparing a 2018 race between two new candidates with a 2016 race where the GOP candidate was a 16-year incumbent.
This race had only about 10,000 less votes than the 2014 general election which Tiberi won going away, 150,000 to 61,000. A lot of Tiberi’s 2014 votes were probably from voters who don’t register, or even vote, GOP, just because he’d been in office long enough to help a ton of constituents.
Balderson will get considerably more votes in the general election rematch, but the total vote is likely to not be significantly higher than the 210,000 that voted in 2014, maybe 230-240,000 but almost certainly not anywhere near the 2016 total vote. The question is whether the Dems can find enough to more than match his higher total. Maybe not, after all the excitement they’ve already generated, but it’s an open question obviously.
Still strongly disagree.
When democrats are out of power, they’re funny. But in power, they’re deadly.
AND Trump has managed to get the GOPe to give him the Tax Cut and the judges.
Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater!
democrats will NEVER give him the Wall—the GOPe will also fight him on it, but not to the death of America like the democrats will do. I can see him getting the Wall, an end to chain and lottery migration and starting merit-based migration in the next two years IF the democrats don’t get back the House.
And not every Republican is a GOPe. What about Goodlatte, Jordan, Meadows, Nunces, etc.? Let’s not simply lump them in with what you call “Repukes”. The Freedom Caucus NEEDS to be supported.
We can only fight ONE election at a time. God has given us a great opportunity with Trump, but it will not last forever. The next election we face is this November. Let’s get thru that BEFORE speculating about 2020.
Apples and oranges, GOP had a low turnout, Dims had a Fake turnout. There is no way that % of Dims voted yesterday.
Only 40% turn-out in such an important election, tends to indicate something more than mere voter complacency. I have a feeling that we're looking at multiple effects here, such as:
1. A bland and uninspiring candidate who didn't motivate voters.
2. Republican candidate greatly outspent by the Democrat.
3. Governor Kasich talking down the R candidate and the party.
4. The left-liberal press (as usual) pushing for the Dem.
5. Lack of support from the GOP-e/RNC.
We know GOP turnout in previous election, and we know how much it dropped. Lazy, stupid, and unmotivated. voter fraud is a convenient excuse to stay at home. We know voter fraud happens, and might be 1% or 2% of vote, not 20%.
Even though that is true then you won’t convince many people here of that. And that is why the democrats get away with it. Will someone check to see if all of those votes are legitimate ? Will someone sample those voters to see if they claim to have even voted ? The Democrats have a ton of Soros funded groups who know and use all forms of vote fraud.
I think the blue wave is tinged heavily with green, much less of a problem.
OK, it wasn’t clear from the post I was answering. Still, it looks a little high. 2016 was a presidential year. To get close to that in a special election, is somewhat suspicious, IMO.
Well, Alyssa Milano wants it investigated because she thinks the Russians made too many vote for the Green candidates. Since conservatives can’t challenge voter fraud Trump needs to investigate it for a lib with TDS.
“Why do you say he is a RINO? If he is, I dont think Trump would have supported him.”
My mistake, I may be confusing him with someone else.
Thanks for your post in support of mine.
In my post I posed the question, was Ohio’s 12th District where John Kasich was the U.S. House Rep for years.
Here’s what I copied from the Washington Post - confirms what I heard from a source and suspected was true:
“Voting results from the special election in Ohio’s 12th District to fill the seat vacated by Patrick J. Tiberi. ... Tiberi, a Republican, left Congress in January to lead the Ohio Business Roundtable. The central Ohio district, once represented by Ohio Gov. John Kasich, consists of suburban areas around Columbus.”
Bingo.
A Republican district, yes, but Kasich, Tiberi, Balderson aren’t cut from the cloth we need. I heard a caller on a.m. talk radio this morning say that Trump got him to come out and vote. He was mad at Tiberi for voting against Obamacare repeal and almost didn’t vote for Balderson...
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