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Scoop: Trump fears Biden 2020, losing Pennsylvania (According to Axios)
Axios ^ | 07/25/2018 | Mike Allen

Posted on 07/25/2018 6:35:39 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

Advisers (unnamed sources?) to President Trump say Joe Biden is the Democrat he most fears running against, and that Pennsylvania is the state he worries most about flipping against him.

Trump’s calculation is based partly on how weak he sees other Democratic possibilities, including Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren, and partly on who’s capable of appealing to his base of working class whites.

Biden, sources tell me, doesn't think Trump is morally or politically fit for the Oval Office.

The former vice president, who at 75 is three years older than Trump, pines to run and will test the waters this fall.

But family considerations could prevent him from ultimately pulling the trigger. Biden sees the same opening Trump does with working class voters, especially in Democratic states like Pennsylvania that Trump won.

Trump advisers say says Biden, like the president, conveys authenticity, is comfortable in his own skin, can work a crowd, and relishes throwing and returning punches.

Biden could — and would — needle Trump, and get under his skin, with a brio that few other big-name Democrats could muster.

He has kept his connection to his birthplace — Scranton, Pa., emblematic of the working-class, Rust Belt territory that joined Trump Country in 2016.

A Democratic source close to Biden said he'd be strong with "Obama-Trump voters" in states like Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin where "the blue wall became the red threat" — Obama won them twice, then they flipped narrowly to Trump.

These are white, working-class voters who aren't college graduates (or have some college) and are anti-Washington. They voted for the anti-establishment candidate (Obama) in 2008 and again in 2016. Biden allies say he'd be a strong candidate partly because he has nothing to lose — his last run would give him a sense of liberation.

This fall, Biden will build up chits with Democrats by traveling every week to appear with candidates for House, Senate, governor and state legislature, and will make a slew of endorsements. In between, he'll work on the Biden Cancer Initiative, the Biden Institute and the Biden Foundation.

Republican sources tell me Pennsylvania, where Trump campaigned frequently and fervently in 2016, will be the toughest to hold of all the battleground states that put him in office.

"There's a reason Pennsylvania had eluded Republican presidential candidates as long as it did," said GOP operative Josh Holmes, president of the Cavalry LLC issue management firm. "You need a combination of a really effective campaign, a perfect message and a good environment."

To make up for how badly Republican candidates do in urban Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, they need almost unattainable margins in the Philly suburbs or in the state's rural areas — the Trump route.

Be smart: Trump told "CBS Evening News" anchor Jeff Glor just after the Singapore summit: "I dream about Biden. That's a dream. ... I'd love to have it be Biden." What Trump meant was "wouldn't."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2020election; biden; biden2020; paping; pennsylvania; trump; trump2020
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To: nikos1121

‘He’ll be lucky to get one state.’

sure, sure; keep telling yourself that...


21 posted on 07/25/2018 6:45:28 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: yesthatjallen

1) BiteMe will never be the DemoKKKrat candidate in a million years. He’ll be drooling by then. The DemoKKKrats are officially the party of ONLY angry white lesbians, blacks, and Hispanics. He could be the former with some surgery, I guess.

2) Trump has INCREASED his lead in PA since 2016. DemoKKKrats have lost over 250,000 off their rolls since 2012, and since 2016 Republicans have lost 85k fewer than DemoKKKrats. And remember, Trump WON a ton of DemoKKKrats in 2016 and has not disappointed them in any way.

3) I have PA firmly in Trump’s column for 2016, and have added NH, bringing him now to 310 electoral votes with ME’s other votes a tossup. I also think-—but have no voter registration to prove it-—that MN will be in Trump’s column for 320 EV. Right now, I have NV and NM a tossup. Both have seen strong GOP gains since November 2016-—not enough to offset the D voter registration advantage, but enough to flip the states.


22 posted on 07/25/2018 6:45:30 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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Biden?

With all the skeletons he has in his closet?

Nope.

23 posted on 07/25/2018 6:45:38 AM PDT by Sa-teef
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To: yesthatjallen
Fake News/Polls **YAWN**
24 posted on 07/25/2018 6:45:52 AM PDT by publius911 (Rule by Fiat-Obama's a Phone and a Pen)
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To: yesthatjallen

The problem with this analysis is that it is so superficial. Biden has a policy track record that helped create and maintain the “Rust Belt”. Trump would kill him on the campaign trail.


25 posted on 07/25/2018 6:45:54 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: LS

I don’t know why folks even post crap like this here.


26 posted on 07/25/2018 6:46:18 AM PDT by PSUGOP
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To: Swordmaker
“HANDS” BIDEN???

You really think that the Republicans could criticize Biden as a groper? Really? Try it and it will be the Trump "Access Hollywood" tape 24x7.

27 posted on 07/25/2018 6:47:26 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: yesthatjallen

I before pictures of Biden groping young girls.


28 posted on 07/25/2018 6:48:36 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: yesthatjallen

“Please don’t throw me into that briar patch!”


29 posted on 07/25/2018 6:48:38 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: yesthatjallen
Who is Biden to talk about moral fitness?


30 posted on 07/25/2018 6:48:55 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 trillion dollars.)
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To: All

Trump is going to serve 8 Years. It’s a done deal.


31 posted on 07/25/2018 6:48:59 AM PDT by TheTimeOfMan (A time for peace and a time for war)
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To: DoodleDawg

If Biden is the “least loony,” which I agree with, then what does that tell us about the state of the Democratic party?


32 posted on 07/25/2018 6:49:11 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: castlegreyskull

Minnesota looks pretty hardcore from where I am at, but he might win states that he didn’t win in 2016.


33 posted on 07/25/2018 6:49:13 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: yesthatjallen

I want to see a crowded field during the 2020 Democrat presidential primary season, with Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, Cory Booker, Kamala Harris, Hillary, and Bernie Sanders, among others. The old guard against the young radicals. It will be cordial at first, with the common theme being “we hate Donald Trump and must defeat him.” However, after the first few primaries are over and the polls start to separate the contenders, they’ll turn on each other, and it will get as nasty as it’s ever been. The Democrat National Convention just may be a repeat of 1968.


34 posted on 07/25/2018 6:50:57 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: PSUGOP

Entertainment value?
Because the jokes just write themselves.


35 posted on 07/25/2018 6:51:07 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: TheTimeOfMan

Never assume anything with American voters. Their sentiments can turn on a dime. There are no “done deals.”


36 posted on 07/25/2018 6:51:13 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Liberals, piss off. That is all.)
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To: PSUGOP

‘I don’t know why folks even post crap like this here.’

yes, isn’t that a pisser when people post stuff we don’t like on an open forum...?


37 posted on 07/25/2018 6:51:59 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: yesthatjallen

Please, please, please don’t be the ‘RAT nominee, Joe.

And please, please, please don’t throw in that briar patch. ;-)


38 posted on 07/25/2018 6:52:42 AM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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To: yesthatjallen

I doubt if Biden would even get the democrat nomination.


39 posted on 07/25/2018 6:52:57 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: yesthatjallen

I wonder how much working class appeal Joe will have once his socialist base twists his arm into abolishing ICE and closing coalfields.


40 posted on 07/25/2018 6:54:12 AM PDT by MountainWalker
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