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Are we truly alone in the cosmos? New study casts doubt on rise of alien life in our galaxy
NBC News ^ | July 15, 2018 | Seth Shostak

Posted on 07/16/2018 10:04:54 AM PDT by PJ-Comix

t’s something people tell me all the time, and usually in hushed tones: “With a trillion planets out there, we really can’t be the only intelligent beings in the galaxy.” In other words, given the enormous amount of real estate in space, aliens are sure to exist. So why haven’t we found any?

I don’t dispute this straightforward idea because, after all, it underpins the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI). But not everyone agrees. A recent paper by three researchers at the University of Oxford is throwing shade on those who feel confident that the cosmos is thick with extraterrestrials.

The Oxford academics were addressing a puzzle known as the Fermi Paradox, which describes the disconnect between our expectation of many worlds swarming with aliens and the fact that they remain undiscovered. Nearly 70 years ago, the celebrated physicist Enrico Fermi mouthed a deceptively simple question: “Where is everybody?” He made a quick estimate of how long it would take for any society bent on building an empire to colonize the entire Milky Way and realized it was only a few tens of millions of years, which is nearly 1,000 times shorter than the age of the galaxy.

This raised an obvious problem: There’s been more than enough time for aliens to spread out, and yet we don’t see them.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: adamfrank; alienlife; aliens; anthropicprinciple; circularreasoning; et; extraterrestrials; fermiparadox; globalwarminghoax; idiocy; moronism; sethshostak; seti; strawmanargument; ufo; ufos; universe
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Yes, I have come to the conclusion that we ARE alone. Should you doubt me, then watch the TV series "One Strange Rock" to see just how unlikely it was for life to have developed on earth, not to speak of intelligent life.
1 posted on 07/16/2018 10:04:54 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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It’s so very lonely
You’re two thousand light years from home.


2 posted on 07/16/2018 10:08:04 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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Considering the distances involved across the milky way Galaxy I question that estimate of a time to colonize the entire Galaxy.


3 posted on 07/16/2018 10:08:23 AM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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“With a trillion planets out there, we really can’t be the only intelligent beings in the galaxy.” In other words, given the enormous amount of real estate in space, aliens are sure to exist. So why haven’t we found any?

Carl Sagan use to say when SETI was up and running we could face it any any direction and hear the cacophony of the universe. Instead we faced it in all directions and heard nothing...

4 posted on 07/16/2018 10:09:56 AM PDT by GOPJ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-s1_nfs7f4 STOP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-IsingvI_I)
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There is life on millions of other planets but only on Saturday night.


5 posted on 07/16/2018 10:12:13 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")))))))
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6 posted on 07/16/2018 10:13:16 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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We only have one example of life. So why does all life everywhere have to have the same parameters to exists that we do? It could, for sure. And that theory is just as valid as proposing that the reason we aren’t visited is because all sentient life falls into a virtual reality hole or something when they become technologically advanced enough. When I see people looking at their phone walking into cars I think there might be something to it.

FReegards


7 posted on 07/16/2018 10:14:25 AM PDT by Ransomed
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It's hard to extrapolate from one data point.

8 posted on 07/16/2018 10:14:29 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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Search for ‘active SETI’. A bunch of the SETI members quit if I recall when they just started tight beaming our location to potential interesting points in the sky with no debate.

Freegards


9 posted on 07/16/2018 10:16:38 AM PDT by Ransomed
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Considering the distances involved across the milky way Galaxy I question that estimate of a time to colonize the entire Galaxy.

What? What? Are you saying 'warp drive' might only exist in science fiction novels?

10 posted on 07/16/2018 10:16:54 AM PDT by GOPJ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-s1_nfs7f4 STOP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-IsingvI_I)
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I'm pretty sure that Strzok is not from this planet:
11 posted on 07/16/2018 10:17:15 AM PDT by littleharbour ("You take on the intel community they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you" C. Schumer)
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Exactly. If they could say ‘of the 19 examples of life we have found, they all need the same narrow parameters to exist’, then fine. But they are basing this theory on an example of only one.

Freegards


12 posted on 07/16/2018 10:19:41 AM PDT by Ransomed
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Fermi, along with the others sitting around eating lunch that day, came up with the great filter idea. The theory being that any intelligent life would discovery weapons with which they could destroy themselves long before they came up with a way to travel the massive cosmos.

The question then became can anyone keep from killing themselves off long enough to get to the technolocical phase needed to colonize the cosmos.


13 posted on 07/16/2018 10:21:42 AM PDT by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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LIFE...........Just one per galaxy........................


14 posted on 07/16/2018 10:22:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (July 2018 - the month the world discovered the TRUTH......Q Anon)
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Ward & Brownlee's Rare Earth: Why Complex Life is Uncommon in the Universe weighed in on this in the 90's (latest edition from 2003). They make a very good case that we are the only civilization in the galaxy, and that if we could travel to other star systems, we would only find the lowest forms of life, if any. The critics HOWLED at them at the beginning, having been raised on Star Trek and Buck Rogers. I was a fan of Rare Earthfrom the get-go. Comports with the Christian worldview. And now, it looks like they might be right.
15 posted on 07/16/2018 10:28:44 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Enjoy the decline of the American empire.)
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Too far, so I don’t really care.
And who says that anyone is going to “colonize the whole galaxy”? Why should they? Just because humans talk about it?

The aliens, if they exist, are going to follow their own plan, not the one that Earth science-fiction writers have made for them.


16 posted on 07/16/2018 10:31:08 AM PDT by I want the USA back (*slam is a political movement that hides behind the illusion of religion.)
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To: walkingdead

Silly conclusion.

Considering how many stars there are and that most of them have planet systems, many with earth type planets it would be logical that there is life in the galaxy.

However, the above being said consider that the galaxy is some 10 or so billion years old. Consider that we search for life, intelligent life by searching for electromagnetic radiation. Humans have only been on earth which is just over 4 billion years old, for about 10000 years in which they have made records. Of that 10,000 years or so it has only been in the last 100 years that we have used electromagnetic radiation. In another 100 years we may have abandoned that type of radiation for communications as being too slow.

We do not have the capacity to understand life beyond our own yet. If there were a planet only 1 million years older than ours that would mean the people are a million years ahead of us. If they don’t want us to see them we won’t.


17 posted on 07/16/2018 10:33:36 AM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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Lets fix the illegal alien problem we already have before worrying about outer space aliens.


18 posted on 07/16/2018 10:33:41 AM PDT by GregoTX
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Carl Sagan use to say when SETI was up and running we could face it any any direction and hear the cacophony of the universe.

Funny, that's what Darwin said about transitional species. But NONE!

19 posted on 07/16/2018 10:37:53 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (...the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light...)
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Yes, I have come to the conclusion that we ARE alone. Should you doubt me, then watch the TV series “One Strange Rock” to see just how unlikely it was for life to have developed on earth, not to speak of intelligent life.

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I don’t have to watch it. I’ve been convinced for some time that life is extremely rare. All the evidence we have so far supports it.

First there is the fine tuning of the Universe. Another is that there is only one tree of life: Even though life appeared early on Earth, it only happened one time. The eukaryotic cell evolved only one time. The ratio of biomass to mass on Earth is only about 3 parts in 10 billion. Earth is 4.5 billion years old. But for 4 billion years there was no life on land. There are many other examples.


20 posted on 07/16/2018 10:38:40 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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