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To: Impy

There are a lot benefits to secession that only a Southerner can understand. Breaking free of the New England power structure and separating from the haughty self righteous puritans being some of them.


72 posted on 06/25/2018 4:17:29 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: central_va

Mmm hmm, sure. Yeah, that really unfair system that inflated Congressional representation for the South by counting 60% of the non-voting slaves and forced Northern states to round up and send back escaped slaves. That and tariffs (which you like now but didn’t like back then).

A bunch of rich slave owners wanting to preserve their power is why it happened, period. You play make beleive if you tell yourself otherwise. Protecting slave owners interests was the CSA’s ONLY reason for existence. If you still wanna wax nostalgic on the CSA more power to you, but you don’t get to deny facts. No one started a war over not liking GD Massholes.


80 posted on 06/25/2018 4:29:02 PM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: central_va; Impy
Strangely enough, after seceding over the "right to secede", the southern delegates drafting the Confederate Constitution conveniently FORGOT to include a "right to secede" in the Confederate Constitution (and went ballistic when West Virginia decided to secede from Virginia). Also, for people supposedly so hellbent on "States rights", they oddly decided to add further RESTRICTIONS on States Rights than had been done under the U.S. Constitution. For example, the Confederate Constitution explicitly prohibited states from being able to restrict the travel of sojourning slave owners, whereas the U.S. Constitution allowed states to make that determination rather than the federal government.

The framers of the Confederate Constitution make SURE to declare slavery was an eternal "right" that could NOT be abolished though. Sheer coincidence, I'm sure.

I mean, its pretty obvious to anyone who studies history that they only cared about the "right to secede", not the right to enslave human beings that they enshrined over and over again in their constitution and all their public statements about why they were seceding.

114 posted on 06/25/2018 4:59:14 PM PDT by BillyBoy (States rights is NOT a suicide pact.)
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