Posted on 06/15/2018 2:15:44 PM PDT by ColdOne
Full title................'This is harassment and racial profiling!' California woman forces Border Patrol agents off a Greyhound bus using the Fourth Amendment after they demanded to see everyone's documents......................The incident took place at a border post which used to be used to check for fruit being brought into California because of an invasive species of fly.
But on this occasion when the bus stopped, Smalls said the driver announced: 'We are being boarded by Border Patrol. Please be prepared to show your documentation upon request.'
Smalls said she stood up and began shouting: 'This is a violation of your Fourth amendment rights. You don't have to show them s***! This is illegal. We are not within 100 miles of an international border so that have no authority to ask you for anything. Tell them to f*** off!'
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Lady Talk-A-Lot needs to mind her own business. There is a time for open defiance of authority, but this wasn’t one of them. How many MS13 connections on that bus did she protect from detection? How many unhealthy, uneducated illegals?
A complete lack of border enforcement causes potential and real fourth amendment violations. The problem is at the border. Fix it. Congress.
Arrest her for obstruction of justice.
“Lady Talk-A-Lot needs to mind her own business.”
More than that, given our problem with illegal immigration, I’d want to assist the officers in weeding out any illegals on the bus.
I actually agree with this woman.
This is like the police stopping every car on the high-way. There has to be some probable cause. They cannot simply ask everyone for ID.
Such is the tension between rights and what is right. Are they equivalent? Sometimes.
But I would say this is all the more argument for the Trump wall. That way we can have doors that make sense, where they makes sense — at the border itself. And there will be minimum need to bother people of Hispanic race who are living well inside the border.
People want a nice constitution and a wall-less border. No can combine.
I don’t know. I was stopped at the El Paso check point inside the US years ago. I’m whiter than white and was in the Marine Corps Reserve at the time and they were going to detain me. The only thing that got me through was my US passport. They would NOT accept my military ID. I had a reserve ID and a military dependents ID. Check point within US borders for any purpose are contrary to the 4th, even DUI check points, though the court says otherwise.
But then that would mean busting anyone who asserts any right against an inquisitionally missioned government.
Let’s put the onus of first line screening where it belongs — AT THE BORDER — and cite just this kind of situation to bolster it.
May I see your passport please...is this YOUR bar of soap?
I’m with you. Allowing the Border Patrol to do blanket and warrantless searches and ID stops invites OTHER police agencies to start doing the same thing and they already do enough of it.
Secure the border, I agree.
But if I’m not at the border then leave me the hell alone.
Pretty sure DHS and TSA can do it already. Correct me as needed.
In today’s plasma state of the left, that would be to invite both a lawsuit and an impassioned political movement.
The moral of the story is that we need an excellent, excellent WALL — even one that can do things like thermal scans to catch people that have been coyoted in.
“Cuff and stuff for interfering with their legal duties.”
They needed a warrant to board the bus therefore this was not one of their legal duties. They were actively violating the 4th Amendment and this lady, as loud as she was, was right.
This is like the police stopping every car on the high-way. There has to be some probable cause. They cannot simply ask everyone for ID.
Have you ever driven out of San Diego?
About 30 miles north the border patrol has a checkpoint with little booth on each lane. You must slow down and they look into each car before waving you through.
The Supreme Court ruled this is legal many years ago.
There are only a few roads out of San Diego and I understand they put up check points on every one of them, but the one on Interstate 5 is the biggest.
And yet there’s no video
Not sure I believe this story at all
This is like the police stopping every car on the high-way.
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Depending upon where you are this is already being done.
Ben Franklin once said; “anyone who gives up their liberty for a measure of security deserves neither”.
The people in this country are losing their liberty because they do not hold fast to our Constitutional law. Clearly, that needs to change.
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