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Russia To US: Let’s Coordinate Your Punitive Airstrikes On Assad
Hotair ^ | 04/12/2018 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 04/12/2018 9:15:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Is Russia negotiating missile strikes as a method of appeasing Donald Trump? The Washington Post reports that Russia has shifted gears from confrontation to mitigation with the US after assisting Bashar al-Assad’s capture of the rebel stronghold Douma. At first, Moscow threatened a military conflict if Trump followed through on his threat to punish Assad for yet another use of chemical weapons that Russia had guaranteed were destroyed:

Russian officials on Thursday sought to tamp down public fears of a looming conflict with the United States, even as Syrian government forces took control of the town where they are suspected of carrying out a chemical attack last weekend. …

Russian officials in recent days had warned of the possibility of a direct military confrontation with the United States as a result of a U.S. strike. Any missile attack that puts Russian lives at risk, Moscow has said, would result in Russia striking back at the missiles and at the planes or ships that launched them.

Today, however, they’ve changed their tune to the point of signaling that a nominal strike on targets without Russian personnel might not get a response. In fact, Russian military sources suggest that they will help coordinate the strikes to ensure no Russian casualties:

In the wake of Trump’s Wednesday tweet warning Russia of a planned U.S. missile strike, however, Moscow appears to be trying to make clear it does not want a war and that a limited attack that doesn’t risk Russian lives would not precipitate a military response.

“I rule out a scenario in which the United States will intentionally strike a facility in Syria where Russian servicemen are located,” Military Sciences Academy vice president Sergei Modestov said in Thursday’s edition of the government newspaper Rossiiskaya Gazeta.

The Kommersant newspaper quoted anonymous Defense Ministry sources as saying that Russia’s General Staff was in touch with the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff and expected to receive coordinates on airstrike targets from the Pentagon in order to avoid Russian casualties.

That might explain why Trump appeared to walk back his threat to strike Syria this morning, a day after promising to rain “smart” missiles down on Assad:

Never said when an attack on Syria would take place. Could be very soon or not so soon at all! In any event, the United States, under my Administration, has done a great job of ridding the region of ISIS. Where is our “Thank you America?”

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 12, 2018

Russians apparently feared that Trump was about to go all-in on Assad:

President Trump’s desire to prevent future chemical attacks in Syria has fueled speculation that the U.S. leader may authorize an attack that is more far-reaching than the one he launched a year ago.

A larger strike, possibly including stealth aircraft and strikes on multiple sites, could inflict lasting damage to military facilities and economic infrastructure that have been vital to President Bashar al-Assad’s ability to regain his grip on Syria seven years into a grinding war.

But a wider attack will face multiple immediate and longer-term risks, including the possibility of a dangerous escalation with Russia, Assad’s main military backer, in a country that Moscow has used as a testing ground for some of its most sophisticated weaponry.

It’s not just the US preparing to strike Assad, though. Theresa May has sent an attack group from the British navy to the coast of Syria to join the US in its reprisals. France affirmed its support for new attacks on Syria this morning, making it yet another diplomatic nightmare for the Russians. If they can hold down the damage while allowing some punitive action that’s limited to just Assad, Vladimir Putin might just ring that up as the cost of doing business.

Putin’s worried about another player looking to reset the battlefield entirely. He called Benjamin Netanyahu earlier to ask him to stop attacking Iranian positions in Syria. Netanyahu gave him the answer you’d expect:

Russian President Vladimir Putin and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke on Wednesday, and the Russian leader urged Israel not to take action in Syria and to threaten its security. Israeli officials confirmed the call took place and said that Netanyahu told Putin that Israel will not permit Iran to set up a military presence in Syria.

The news of the telephone call between Netanyahu and Putin appeared as Netanyahu took the stage in Israel’s main Holocaust memorial event and issued a threat to Iran not to “test Israel’s resolve.” The Russians announced the call in statement on the website of the Kremlin, which specified that Putin insisted it is “important” to maintain Syria’s sovereignty.

Putin’s trying to head off yet another proxy war in its newly won back yard. It may already be too late for that:

The air raid that Israel is said to have mounted Monday against the Iranian airbase called T4 in Syria was apparently a watershed moment in Iran’s aspiration to establish a local foothold. The bombing raid had significant results compared to previous attacks, and Tehran’s threats to retaliate make the collision course already marked with Israel more likely. An Iranian retribution may lead in turn to an Israeli response that could almost entirely wipe out Iran’s military presence in Syria. …

It’s been half a year now that the leadership in Jerusalem – the prime minister, defense minister, cabinet ministers and chief of staff – have been openly stating that as far as they’re concerned, a new line has been drawn in the Syrian sand. Israel will do what it takes to frustrate Iran’s military establishment there.

Based on foreign media reports, these threats were backed by acts: first with attacks ascribed to Israel in which it reportedly reacted to fire from battles in the Golan between the Assad forces and the rebels that seeped over the border; Iranian transponders and intelligence outposts on the border were also bombed. …

The latest attack ascribed to Israel exposes Iran’s real intentions: Major General Qasem Soleimani, commander of the Quds Force of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps and a crony of Khamenei’s, is building an extensive, smart system in Syria, aimed against Israel. The nature of this activity is being kept secret from Russia, which sees itself as allied with the axis supporting Assad. Its dimensions are apparently also secret from top Iranians as well: President Hassan Rohani balks at increasing investment in the Quds Force and in the wars that Soleimani is pursuing in the region.

For Russia and the Assad regime, it is a big headache. A collision between Israel and Iran would imperil the regime’s ambition of regaining control and could have other prices for Assad. Soleimani, according to Israeli pundits, is in effect undermining Russian interests in Syria. Meanwhile Assad lost a lot of his anti—aircraft power because of Israeli raids after the F-16 was shot down.

The US might be looking to make Syria and Russia pay a steep price for its alliance with Iran in Syrian territory. If so, then allowing the US a few targets for a one-off reprisal might be the cheapest way out of the conundrum for Putin.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria
KEYWORDS: airstrikes; assad; bloggers; kabuki; neocon; russia; savingface; shamwow; syria; trumpgwot; trumprussia
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To: Magnum44

“So even Russia is admitting Assad used chemical weapons.”

Where?

Or, is that a deduction?


21 posted on 04/12/2018 9:38:13 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Two days ago Russia was saying “You better not strike”. Today they are saying, lets just keep it coordinated. This after the French said the evidence is in. How many different sources do you need to hear it from? When Assad’s major ally in country is willing to step aside, yes that speaks very loudly.


22 posted on 04/12/2018 9:42:50 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: SeekAndFind

BREAKING: US Secretary of Defence Mattis says notification will be given to Congress leaders prior to a possible strike on #Syria.

And will be leaked out to the MSM in ~10 minutes.


23 posted on 04/12/2018 9:44:25 AM PDT by McGruff (We are watching a coup attempt. In our own country.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Let’s coordinate airstrikes on islamist rebels.


24 posted on 04/12/2018 9:49:13 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Magnum44

Do you deduced it, then stated it as fact.


25 posted on 04/12/2018 9:50:36 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: SeekAndFind

So Russia is admitting to Assad’s using poisonous weapons. Watch for the pointy heads to xplode!


26 posted on 04/12/2018 9:53:51 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: SeekAndFind

It never fails that time and again mistakes are made and what we learn is that the folks calling the shots either were liars or made decisions before they knew what the hell was going on. Not having the facts about exactly who used chemicals and what exactly those chemicals were, we have no moral right to hurt anyone.


27 posted on 04/12/2018 9:54:14 AM PDT by happytrumper
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To: SeekAndFind

it’s just so difficult these days deciding on which bit of fake news is the least fakest ...


28 posted on 04/12/2018 9:55:05 AM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Mariner

No, not exactly, but since others are so willing to jump to conclusions in the other extreme, why should I not stir the pot? I was taught to think for myself, deduction being a part of that. Reasoning is in short supply lately.


29 posted on 04/12/2018 9:55:48 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: SeekAndFind
Most of this is Hot Air speculation including everything Putin said to Netanyahu, however there is information gleaned from a statement released by the Israeli Government regarding Netanyahu's conversation with Putin, it is as follows:

(Iranian) Major General Qasem Soleimani, commander of the Quds Force of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps and a crony of Khamenei’s, is building an extensive, smart system in Syria, aimed against Israel. The nature of this activity is being kept secret from Russia, which sees itself as allied with the axis supporting Assad.

Likely Netanyahu made Putin aware of this, justifying the Strike.

In the past, Russia has not been upset with Israel occasionally striking inside Syria as WMD's and Nuke facilities have been the targets.

30 posted on 04/12/2018 9:58:38 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (America NEEDS Mob Rule, another European and Mid East World War and a universal Draft)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The Russian Method of State Suicide

https://garygindler.wordpress.com/2018/04/11/the-russian-method-of-state-suicide/


31 posted on 04/12/2018 9:59:08 AM PDT by WWII_Historian
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To: Responsibility2nd

The Art of the Deal.

Russia very much wants to keep their naval base and air support facilities they now have in place in Syria. If this means that Syria gets balkanized, so be it, with a Turkish faction, a Kurdish faction, and an Alawite/Shi’a faction, plus perhaps a Sunni faction. These various regions may be quarrelsome, but mostly, ineffective, and with defined boundaries.


32 posted on 04/12/2018 9:59:13 AM PDT by alloysteel (Life is uncertain. Eat dessert first.)
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To: Magnum44

General Mattis stated, clearly, the US and it’s allies have yet to determine what, exactly happen in that town and who is responsible.

Perhaps the General is jumping to conclusions?


33 posted on 04/12/2018 10:04:35 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Russia’s General Staff was in touch with the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff and expected to receive coordinates on airstrike targets from the Pentagon"

The coordinates are the country of Syria. We promise not to strike outside of that at a time of our choosing.
34 posted on 04/12/2018 10:05:39 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: WWII_Historian

Interesting article. Thanks for posting.

But I do disagree with the premise that Russia is on a fast track to self destruction. Financially or otherwise.


35 posted on 04/12/2018 10:05:42 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: SeekAndFind; Magnum44; Reno89519; Mariner; BeadCounter
So even Russia is admitting Assad used chemical weapons...

Even Hot Air could not get that to print out, as it's not in the article, unless you can point to it?

36 posted on 04/12/2018 10:07:25 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (America NEEDS Mob Rule, another European and Mid East World War and a universal Draft)
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To: Iron Munro

This may be a real good way to smoke them out.


37 posted on 04/12/2018 10:13:03 AM PDT by DarthVader ("The biggeest misconception on Free Republic is that the Deep State is invulnerable")
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To: Responsibility2nd

“This is good. This shows Trump and Putin can play nicely.”

...or it is proof of COLLUSION!!!!! /s


38 posted on 04/12/2018 10:13:39 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE
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To: Mariner

I believe his words were something to the effect of “they are still assessing”. That’s what analysts do. They will assess and come up with initial conclusions, and then they will be asked to assess further.

As I have posted, the analysts are asked to “get it right”, especially when lives are at stake, and if you have ever worked problems like this you would know that you can almost never prove anything with 100% certainty, so what the analysts are asked to do is provide an estimate and an uncertainty on that estimate.

And General Mattis is not out of line to ask for further assessment or more information, as he is the one who will have to make final recommendations to POTUS. Along with this, the evidence will have to be shared with allies (or even Russia) in such a way as to not compromise the sources or methods that collected the evidence. So scrubbing that data takes some time as well.

This is a process. The public, that doesn’t even get taught basic civics much less how these functions work, gets all wrapped up in scare tactics and emotion. The cooler heads will stick with the process.


39 posted on 04/12/2018 10:14:45 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Dog

Yes....


40 posted on 04/12/2018 10:15:37 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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