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The Pennsylvania race is a toss-up. But the narrative is a lock.
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Posted on 03/12/2018 12:35:29 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

(CNN)The special election contest in southwest Pennsylvania will come to an end on Tuesday night and, though the winner remains in doubt, the post-election spin pretty much writes itself.

A new Monmouth University poll out Monday afternoon shows Democrat Conor Lamb leading GOP candidate Rick "I was Trump before Trump was Trump" Saccone, but the margin is slight -- meaning political operatives and pundits are preparing for all eventualities.

That includes the most powerful political pontificator in the land -- President Donald Trump. According to Axios, he is not-so-privately dumping on Saccone and his campaign, calling the Republican "weak." Meanwhile, Democrats are champing at the bit, prepared to declare Lamb's victory (or narrow defeat) -- in a district Trump won by nearly 20 points in 2016 -- a canary in the GOP's congressional coal mines. Here's what you can expect to hear beginning around the time the beers crack on Tuesday evening...

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2018midterms; election; lamb; pa2018; paelection; paping; pennsylvania; saccone
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1 posted on 03/12/2018 12:35:29 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

If Saccone narrowly wins or is bested by Lamb, the Democrat spin is inevitable.

Trump lost!


2 posted on 03/12/2018 12:38:56 PM PDT by goldstategop
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Fair or not, Saccone projects the image of a political hack. How do we choose such candidates?


3 posted on 03/12/2018 12:42:46 PM PDT by nbenyo
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Having watch the rally I don’t believe Axios for an instant. Trump did not hold back in his praise and endorsement, he would not have done that if he didn’t believe it and knows full well the blowback would be on him personally if he ever said anything different.

They just make crap up.


4 posted on 03/12/2018 12:42:47 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust Sessions. The Great Awakening is at hand...MAGA!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It appears the charismatically challenged Saccone pulls this out, thanks to DJT and Don, but between him and Moore in Alabama, we need a younger bullpen. Fast.


5 posted on 03/12/2018 12:43:10 PM PDT by JonPreston
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Whenever Obama rushed in to “help” a vulnerable Democrat (Martha Coakley comes to mind), the Democrat lost. He just highlighted the candidate’s weaknesses.
I suspect the same will happen tomorrow.


6 posted on 03/12/2018 12:48:01 PM PDT by nbenyo
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To: JonPreston; ChicagoConservative27
It appears the charismatically challenged Saccone pulls this out

____________

If Saccone

...... just had the charisma of his look alike:

the great Larry Bird

...... it would be easy.

7 posted on 03/12/2018 12:48:59 PM PDT by a little elbow grease (Zip ties and duct tape are far more productive than pussy hats and #metoo tweets)
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To: a little elbow grease

LOL, separated at birth :)


8 posted on 03/12/2018 12:52:43 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The Republican better win.

This is not just about one state, it has major impact on Congress and their working on Trump’s agenda. GOP majority is critical.

So, again: people need to look at the big picture and elect the Republican.


9 posted on 03/12/2018 12:53:27 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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“...charismatically challenged...”

I know it is the world we live in, yet it is unfortunate that people vote based on how good the candidate looks on camera.


10 posted on 03/12/2018 12:53:31 PM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The Democrat left-wing media is going all out to predict and insure that Democrat, Conor Lamb bests Republican, Rick Saccone in the Pennsylvania, 18th CD runoff race election being held tomorrow. The Obamabot Media used exactly the same tactic before the Texas primary last week. It failed miserably, as the Republicans wiped up the floor with Democrats across the board, sometimes out voting Democrats by 300,000-600,000 vote margins of victory.

I have no idea who will win this runoff, but....I can tell you all...don’t count on the polls to guide you. My gut feeling is this one will be won by whoever gets their voters to the polls. So...at the end of the day or, better yet, the end of this campaign, the deciding winning factor will be as it always is, TURNOUT, TURNOUT, TURNOUT!!! Go Trump, Go Saccone, Go MAGA!!!


11 posted on 03/12/2018 12:54:26 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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To: nbenyo

You could be right altho the whiff I get from the reporting today is that things have changed for the better. I say Saccone +5


12 posted on 03/12/2018 12:55:04 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: stonehouse01
people vote based on how good the candidate looks on camera.

No doubt it's a real thing. The Scam is 30 years younger & fit. Not to mention he's running as a conservative making it more difficult for a 60 y/o frump (despite his high qualifications). Just keeping it real.

13 posted on 03/12/2018 12:58:18 PM PDT by JonPreston
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Saccone’s messaging has bee piss poor to generate MAGA I and D turnout... If he loses, it boils simply down to the fact the messaging was CRAP.

Literally every ad I have seen in this race for Saccone could have been used for any Republican running in the last 15 or so years.

If that is what it took to get out the MAGA voter to show up, the D’s who crossed over for Trump and the Is who chose Trump that had trended D before would have voted R in previous elections.

The ads only appeal were to already reliable republican voters. If this was the model the R’s are planning to use in the mid terms, expect them to lose the house, handily.

This was always likely to be closer than it should be just because of D enthusiasm, but it SHOULD NOT BE A LOSS For the R... If the R loses this race it ALL boils down to messaging.


14 posted on 03/12/2018 12:59:06 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: JonPreston

Smarter, at the very least. (If with age comes wisdom, I’ll take that.) Trump is tireless. But he is carrying a great load as it is. Candidates should be helping him with it, not just riding his coattails into office.


15 posted on 03/12/2018 1:06:21 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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Jesus wept, when are the comatose local Republican party hacks going to get cleaned out? They may even be headed up by Democrat plants.


16 posted on 03/12/2018 1:10:48 PM PDT by squarebarb ( Fairy tales are basically true.)
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To: nbenyo

Local politics is always a cut-throat game.................


17 posted on 03/12/2018 1:19:20 PM PDT by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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This is probably the most active I have seen the Republican party for this district ever... I am being contacted via text, phone call, mailings and ads constantly... If R’s lose it isn’t because they aren’t out there working hard.

As I posted above this race was going to be closer than it should be due to D enthusiasm, but the R should win... if Saccone loses this this, he is going to lose it due to messaging,

I have been disappointed since day one at the messaging of this race. The ads being run could have been run by any republican for the last 15 or more years...

R’s need to motivate turnout, and I just don’t see the ad campaign that the R’s have been running as something that is going to motivate turnout, outside the already reliable R voters.

I see NOTHING in this campaign messaging that is going to motivate the I voters who went R for Trump let alone the D voters who crossed for Trump to be motivated to turn out by this campaign.

IF the R loses, and I am not saying he will, but it is clear to me that if the messaging of this campaign is the plan for the mid terms, expect the R’s to lose the house, because mid terms are about TURNOUT and I just don’t see the messaging in this race connecting to the MAGA voters who put Trump in office.

This is a fairly solid R district, saccone should pull it out by a few Points even with bad messaging, but that’s not the case for other districts come this november, that are not as solidly R.... IF the messaging used for this race is what R’s plan for November, I expect them to lose the house.


18 posted on 03/12/2018 1:28:49 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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(R)’s always want to ‘play nice’.

(D)’s always want to kick (R)’s ass............


19 posted on 03/12/2018 1:44:03 PM PDT by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I have been uneasy about this race for some time. I don’t expect a good outcome.


20 posted on 03/12/2018 1:49:51 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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