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To: OneVike

What is the argument against strong background checks?


2 posted on 02/28/2018 5:14:45 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (A year in Arizona... and I haven't burst into flames yet.)
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To: SandyInSeattle

It’s more BS about a non-existant gun show loophole.


6 posted on 02/28/2018 5:16:02 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Their side circles the wagons. Our side revs up the bus.)
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To: SandyInSeattle

Where do you see background check mentioned in the Second Amendment?


7 posted on 02/28/2018 5:18:26 PM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: SandyInSeattle

It includes transfers from one family member to another as well as private sales among citizens.


8 posted on 02/28/2018 5:19:26 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: SandyInSeattle

Universal checks, aka registration.


9 posted on 02/28/2018 5:19:58 PM PST by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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To: SandyInSeattle
-- What is the argument against strong background checks? --

What do you mean by "strong?"

16 posted on 02/28/2018 5:23:24 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: SandyInSeattle

Once they get universal background checks, they move on to adding offenses to the list of prohibiting violations. The end game being that everyone has done something that prevents them from purchasing a firearm.


18 posted on 02/28/2018 5:25:02 PM PST by Yogafist
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To: SandyInSeattle

Until people are arrested who are felons or otherwise trying to illegally purchase a gun, what’s the point of the check?


19 posted on 02/28/2018 5:26:43 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: SandyInSeattle

Poorly defined. Leaving the details up to the unelected will be amother disaster.


20 posted on 02/28/2018 5:27:34 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: SandyInSeattle

No registration or licensing for firearms ownership. Never. Zip. Zero. Nada.


47 posted on 02/28/2018 5:47:10 PM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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To: SandyInSeattle

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>> “What is the argument against strong background checks?” <<

They are not helpful, and most of the parameters are unreasonable.

Background checks have never stopped a single shooting, and they never will.

Criminals do not obey silly laws that are so easy to circumvent.

The school shootings have all been deep state planned events, and will continue to be until the tyrants have crushed the people completely.

Guns prevent killings, and gun laws enable massacres.

This is just how it is.
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67 posted on 02/28/2018 5:57:42 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: SandyInSeattle

“Universal background checks” is code for outlawing private transfers.
If you give your son or brother a gun, it will be illegal.
If you sell one to your neighbor, it will be illegal.
Once every transfer is subject to paperwork they will have de facto registration.
Registration always leads to confiscation.


79 posted on 02/28/2018 6:05:01 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SandyInSeattle

Background checks are basically the affirmative action of gun control managed by government.

1. the FBI sees no use in funding for investigation of people who acquire weapons illegaly or enforce privileges with them. Instead we get a DMV secretary checking if you are a no fly list.

2. The FBI the forces the person who is on the nofly list to prove they are innocent instead of the FBI having burden of proof and feeling the need to incestigate real cases of gun abuse.

3. background checks should be for access to privilege like school, not rights like guns. The result of affirmative action means that privileges have become a right and thus a way for terrorists to penetrate such privileged institutions without vetting. Ergo, going for gun background checks instead or taking guns away instead of privilege curtailing is not going to prevent terrorist setting up shop for various forms of complex and assumetric attacks on their targets.


84 posted on 02/28/2018 6:09:50 PM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucifiedc)
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To: SandyInSeattle

It does not matter how strong the background checks are if the government keeps screwing up. The present system would have kept the SC church shooter, the Texas church shooter and the latest school shooter from legally buying guns if the federal government had done the right thing. If the federal government is going to run programs like the “Promise Program” where they prevent the arrest of criminals and the reporting of crimes, why even bother with a background check system?


97 posted on 02/28/2018 6:29:09 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: SandyInSeattle
What is the argument against strong background checks?

Come live in NJ or any Constitutional "slave" state and find out. Even relatively conservative states have areas of liberal idiots and many conservatives in Congress are spineless along with the dummy Supreme Court. The problem with ANYTHING concerning 2A is that most of government is run by liberal hacks so guess who does background, determines mental health, ultimately decides who is worthy of a Constitutional INALIENABLE GOD GIVEN RIGHT? The plan is to destroy 2A rights by the sheer weight of government, stupidity of people and a 1000 cuts or 1000 more people in massacres.

98 posted on 02/28/2018 6:29:12 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: SandyInSeattle
What is the argument against strong background checks?

First off, the phrase is really shorthand for making every transfer of a firearm subject to a background check, including private sales or transfers. The only way to enforce such a universal background check realistically is to create a database of who owns guns -- how else could you know if someone transferred a weapon without doing the background check? And that is a huge infringement on the rights of Americans.

It appears that under the Manchin style "strong" background check you could not lend a rifle to your neighbor so he or she could protect their livestock, or just shoot at tin cans.

No other fundamental right has a background check requirement. Would you think it is OK if you had to notify the government and fill out a detailed form before you could attend a new church, synagogue, or mosque? Or seek approval before submitting a letter to the editor?

What are appropriate limits for a "background" check? Again, apply the same tests to choosing a church, or being allowed to speak in public, or post here on Free Republic. What is the determination of who is "qualified"? Somebody who voted for the current President? From the point of view of some people, what about people in poor neighborhoods, or people of color?

The right to keep and bear arms has the same basis as the right to free speech, or the right to practice the religion of your choosing.

101 posted on 02/28/2018 6:34:37 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: SandyInSeattle

“What is the argument against strong background checks?”

What is the difference between the terms strong background checks, common sense background checks, moderate background checks, and enhanced background checks?

I don’t know so I’m asking.

Since I don’t know what constitutes a “commercial sale” I’ll ask: What is the commercial gun sale referenced?


114 posted on 02/28/2018 7:10:41 PM PST by jeffersondem
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To: SandyInSeattle

What is the argument against strong background checks?
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According to Mnachin’s bill if you sell your gun to your sister you would have to do a background check on her.


115 posted on 02/28/2018 7:11:22 PM PST by tschatski
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To: SandyInSeattle

I don’t want strong background checks for my God given constitutional rights.

Tell me which constutional right needs a strong background check? Voting? Free speech? Due process?


128 posted on 02/28/2018 7:40:44 PM PST by grumpygresh (When will Soros be brought to justice? Crush the vermin, crush the Left.)
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To: SandyInSeattle

What is the argument against strong background checks?


We already have background checks...

They are setting up a de facto national firearm registry. Think of that in the hands of another radical leftist president?

ALso, that background check would not have ensured the safety of the children in Parkland.

People who want to shoot up innocents are lawless and will procure a firearm or another weapon.


133 posted on 02/28/2018 8:18:30 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (#KATE'SWALL Build it Now)
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To: SandyInSeattle

Strong background checks lead to
registration, registration leads
to confiscation.
The 2ND amendment “shall not be
infringed”.....


136 posted on 02/28/2018 9:08:40 PM PST by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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