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Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
The Hill ^

Posted on 02/28/2018 2:10:16 PM PST by RevelationDavid

Edited on 02/28/2018 2:25:41 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

President Trump on Wednesday voiced support for confiscating guns from certain individuals deemed to be dangerous, even if it violates due process rights.

“I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida ... to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376097-trump-take-the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; 3dchess; 5dchess; banglist; believeme; gun; gungrabbing; guns; nyvalues; populism; trump; trumpbanglist
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To: itsahoot

And if he has trouble finding it that clip and more lead all the national newscasts tonight


241 posted on 02/28/2018 4:51:41 PM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: SJackson

Yes I agree. But we don’t just take rights away because someone “calls in” , I have known that since the 8th grade. The stupidity of people and possibly our president is astounding to me. I AGREE WITH TRUMP ON 95%, But on the 5% he is wrong , I will stand up. I am not perfect and neither is he.


242 posted on 02/28/2018 4:52:51 PM PST by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, weÂ’re building that wall" DJT)
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To: poinq
The NRA is on thin ICE.

Companies See Negative Responses to Cutting Business Ties With NRA

243 posted on 02/28/2018 4:54:52 PM PST by itsahoot (There will be division, as long as there is money to be divided.)
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To: RevelationDavid; All

Age is not the problem. If it was, then we would have seen it the moment the 2nd Amendment was implemented.

Young minds on years of psychotropic drugs is the issue. That’s what is in play now since Columbine. Yet no one in Washington is talking about it because of big pharmacutical lobbyists.

Follow the money.


244 posted on 02/28/2018 4:56:22 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Freedom56v2

If a armed person starts walking down your street or maybe up your sidewalk and based on their behavior you, based on your life’s experience and wisdom, judge the person to be crazy what will you do?

Oh I guess you will work your way through the definitions of crazy or find smeone to give a diagnosis being sure to protect their HIPPA rights.

Or will you take defensive measures, will you call the cops, would you expect them to disarm the crazy, as judged by you, person?


245 posted on 02/28/2018 4:57:36 PM PST by FreedomNotSafety (L)
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To: BruinX66
"He misspoke, people should be used to this by now. This happened every other day during the campaign..."

...and about once a week since. He either speaks from ignorance and/or likes to rile. Much of what he says is akin to the weather in New England: If you don't like it, wait a day and it'll change.

246 posted on 02/28/2018 4:59:55 PM PST by Moonlighter
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To: nbenyo

Due process is due process. Circumventing the Constitution for expediency is bullshit.


247 posted on 02/28/2018 5:00:01 PM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: RevelationDavid

If Trump keeps this up then we will all be saying the Liberals were right about him.


248 posted on 02/28/2018 5:01:44 PM PST by Revel
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To: FreedomNotSafety
"You must be crazy to think crazy people have due process rights when they are armed."

I'm well armed and a lot of people think I'm crazy - you among them. Luckily for me the Constitution protects my right to due process from people like you. And unfortunately for you if you want the police to come take my weapons you are going to have to abide by my right to due process.

Of course, if you don't like that you can always come and take them yourself   LOL
249 posted on 02/28/2018 5:02:38 PM PST by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: sargon

Trump saying due process should come after the fact. That’s bullshit. I do not agree with that sentiment at all.


250 posted on 02/28/2018 5:02:42 PM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: itsahoot

“You need to recognize how serious the threat to our Republic is. This man is all that stands between us and them. ”

One man. Not a contingent. If so, we’re already gone. Will then a civil war will stand between them and us?


251 posted on 02/28/2018 5:03:07 PM PST by polymuser (Its terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesteron)
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To: SJackson

That is so cogent it deserves repeating “No criminal complaint, no psychiatric referral. So what can you do? Given the large number of complaints to the police, I wonder if citizens were discouraged from filing a complaint. But if there’s no complaint, and no one does their job, there’s nothing more to do. We agree on due process, it’s a vital part of the process which protects the rest of us. Here the process never started” Bravo!! Due process FIRST!!!or we are doomed by a “call in” . Many think Trump is “mental” ,( don’t get me wrong, he is not !) But because they “ call him in” do we deny his 1st amendment? his 2nd amendment? his 4th? ABSURD!!


252 posted on 02/28/2018 5:04:13 PM PST by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, weÂ’re building that wall" DJT)
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To: SkyDancer

Why our betters in government of course, who else?


253 posted on 02/28/2018 5:06:37 PM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: WayneS

Actually, that is CURRENT LAW. IN EVERY STATE.

If someone files for a protective order.

It will be granted.

Then the police will come and take your guns.

THEN you get your opportunity to be heard.


254 posted on 02/28/2018 5:08:03 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: FreedomNotSafety
"Crazy people with guns is different than crazy people."

Are crazy people with poisonous chemicals under their kitchen sink different than crazy people? Are crazy people with big, strong arms that can snap your neck in a heartbeat different than crazy people? Are small, little crazy people that can push you in front of a speeding truck different than crazy people?

Are you sure you've given your position enough thought?
255 posted on 02/28/2018 5:08:29 PM PST by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: RevelationDavid

The headline is misleading.

...from certain individuals deemed to be dangerous, even if it violates due process rights...

Not everyone.


256 posted on 02/28/2018 5:08:51 PM PST by McGruff (#ObamaGate)
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To: Tenacious 1

While we were sleeping, the leftist already succeeded on this.

Scalia objected, but the Supremes expanded the federal gun seizures to any minor domestic issue.


257 posted on 02/28/2018 5:09:57 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: Electric Graffiti

And see it in plain back & white here at FR. ;)


258 posted on 02/28/2018 5:14:05 PM PST by Moonlighter
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To: Yaelle

Oh really? Best wake up .

THE COURT HEREBY FINDS:

That it has jurisdiction over the parties and subject matter, and the defendant has been or will be provided with reasonable notice and opportunity to be heard.

Additional findings of this court are as set forth on the following pages.

THE COURT HEREBY ORDERS:

That the above named defendant be restrained from committing further acts of abuse or threats of abuse, stalking or sexual assault. Additional terms of this order are as set forth on the following pages.

This order shall be effective through 11:59 PM on n (month/day/year)

NOTE: Some provisions of this order MAY NOT EXPIRE. See paragraphs 1-5.

This order shall be enforced, even without registration, by the courts of any state, the District of Columbia, any U.S. Territory, and may be enforced by Tribal Lands (18 U.S.C. Section 2265).

WARNINGS TO DEFENDANT:

Crossing state, territorial, or tribal boundaries to violate this order may result in federal imprisonment (18 U.S.C. Section 2262).

Federal law provides penalties for possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving any firearm or ammunition (18 U.S.C. Section 922(g)(8)). See further notice on pages 6-7 of this order.

ONLY THE COURT CAN CHANGE THIS ORDER.
https://www.lasc.org/court_managed_prog/LPOR/LPOR_forms/LPOR_03.pdf


259 posted on 02/28/2018 5:14:21 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: Revel

Actually, if Trump keeps this up, all the liberals will start demanding to keep their guns.

Since they just naturally oppose him on everything.

:)


260 posted on 02/28/2018 5:15:46 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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