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The Ross Ice Shelf is Freezing, Not Melting. Which Is Weird.
www.popularmechanics.com ^ | Feb 23, 2018 1.7k | By Sophie Weiner

Posted on 02/25/2018 11:37:47 AM PST by Red Badger

Scientists were surprised by the results of their study.

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In November, scientists from New Zealand used a hot water drill to go deep into Antarctica's Ross Ice Shelf. The shelf, which can be up to 10,000 feet thick, is the largest of several that hold back West Antarctica's massive amounts of ice. If these were to collapse, global sea level would rise by ten feet.

Drilling a hole and lowering a camera and thermometer inside is a way for researchers to understand the history of the shelf, and what is happening to it now. In measuring the temperature and currents below the shelf, they expected to find that the ice was melting.

Instead, the water appeared to be crystalizing and freezing. In the video from National Geographic below, you can see the white dots of ice crystals as the camera is lowered towards the dark sea below. If the shelf was melting, the hole at that level would have smooth sides.

“It blew our minds,” Christina Hulbe, the glaciologist from the University of Otago in New Zealand, who co-led the project, told National Geographic.

Scientists have left instruments deep in the hole to measure currents and temperatures below the shelf for the next few years. Though the freezing seems to be a promising sign for the shelf's stability, it doesn't tell the whole picture. Scientists also hope to learn whether the ice shelf has melted in the past due to other climate shifts.

Though results of this study were unexpected, that doesn't change the larger trend of accelerated warming and icecap melting. In fact, NASA just confirmed we are losing ice in Antarctica at a faster rate every year. The reasons for these odd Ross results probably won't become clear until much more research is done. But for now, at the very least, it's a decent sign that catastrophic melting of the Ross Ice Shelf won't occur in the near future.

Source: National Geographic


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: antarctica; catastrophism; climatechange; eltaninimpact; globalcooling; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; rossiceshelf
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To: jetson

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The dinosaurs are still with us, but they are now much smaller due to lack of oxygen in the atmosphere.

The largest ones died out about 1000 years ago, not 60 million.
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81 posted on 02/25/2018 5:07:51 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
The dinosaurs are still with us, but they are now much smaller due to lack of oxygen in the atmosphere. The largest ones died out about 1000 years ago, not 60 million. .

Say what? Do you mean crocodiles and deep water fish?

82 posted on 02/25/2018 5:10:58 PM PST by jetson
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To: jetson

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I mean the universe is 6000 years old (the evidence is strong)

All but the very largest dinos are still with us,but are much smaller than their ancestors were, just as humans are less than half as big as the first humans were, and half as intelligent too.
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83 posted on 02/25/2018 5:26:43 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: JPJones
Interesting about Antarctic ice sitting in a bowl. The same is true of Greenland btw. Melting in Greenland makes big lakes, not sea level rise.
84 posted on 02/25/2018 5:27:53 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Leaning Right

>>The researchers should lower Al Gore into the hole and let him check things out personally.<<

LMAO! This is a brilliant idea.


85 posted on 02/25/2018 7:29:56 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat ( Who are the idiots who elected this dreadful Pope? They need to unelect him. He is a disgrace.)
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To: PGR88

>> Now, do you want to offer information that contradict that in a useful way? Or are you just about being snarky?<<

Well done, PG!


86 posted on 02/25/2018 7:42:43 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat ( Who are the idiots who elected this dreadful Pope? They need to unelect him. He is a disgrace.)
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To: DuncanWaring
The sun’s overall level of magnetic activity has been observed to be trending downward for several decades now.

True, and that weakening strongly affects the amount of cosmic rays hitting our upper atmosphere.

An increase in cosmic rays means more cloud formation, which increases the albedo of the planet, resulting in lower surface temperatures.

Then there are orbital eccentricities which will come into play over the coming decade... It all adds up to an era of very cold weather.

87 posted on 02/25/2018 8:29:26 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Not talking about an ice age, but rather the minimum which is baked into the cake.The Left will pivot to ICE AGE COMING when their warming thesis is too obviously bunk and will not mention AGW again. It will all be CATASTROPHIC AGC.


88 posted on 02/26/2018 1:50:00 AM PST by arthurus (df)
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To: TexasGator

The term is “shelf.” It is attached to the continental ice.


89 posted on 02/26/2018 3:18:56 AM PST by dangus (.)
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To: editor-surveyor

You and I will likely never agree on whether or not the northern US will be covered by a mile of ice in 30000 years.

However, the historical record of the last few hundred years shows several examples of significant multi-decade cooling, coinciding with minimal sunspot levels, causing significant human misery.


90 posted on 02/26/2018 4:49:01 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: arthurus

And they’ll finally be correct.


91 posted on 02/26/2018 4:49:44 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Concentrate

No land. All ocean. Different heat conductivity.


92 posted on 02/26/2018 5:06:38 AM PST by Shady (We WON the Battle, Now let's WIN THE WAR!!!!)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Ocean water freezes at a lower temperature than freshwater. ... Fresh water freezes at 32 degrees Fahrenheit but seawater freezes at about 28.4 degrees Fahrenheit , because of the salt in it. When seawater freezes, however, the ice contains very little salt because only the water part freezes.

NOAA’s National Ocean Service
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/oceanfreeze.html


93 posted on 02/26/2018 6:08:15 AM PST by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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To: DuncanWaring

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Cool weather does not an “ice age” make!

The one and only ice age Earth has suffered was a continuous precipitation event caused by the hot ocean water that remained after “the fountains of the great deep” burst forth through the crust of the Earth creating the Genesis flood that gave Noah his fame.

Without superheated ocean water, an ice age is impossible, since there is no other way to bring sufficient water up to the upper atmosphere where it will freeze and fall as snow and ice.

Capiche?

There are not 3000 years left in the future of planet Earth. Of this we are assured in clear Bible prophecy.

There are just a little over 1000 years left until the fulfillment of the complete destruction of the universe promised in the 3rd chapter of 2Peter.

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94 posted on 02/26/2018 9:30:02 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Pollster1
If we spiral into an ice age, food will be so hard to produce that even liberals may have to do productive work if they want to eat!

That's one way to get rid of them...

95 posted on 02/26/2018 11:52:22 AM PST by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: Windflier
when this thing truly kicks in, it may happen suddenly, which will trigger mass migrations southward.

That would certainly stun those South of the border...mass numbers of people headed there way...then they could deal with us as illegals for a change. I hope they have my freebies waiting and are ready and willing to cater to me.

96 posted on 02/26/2018 11:59:30 AM PST by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: Tammy8

Mexico and Central America are going to be overwhelmed with refugees from Canada and our northern states. Tens of millions of illegals will also be part of that mass migration.

The influx is going to change those countries forever. I expect political lines will be redrawn, worldwide.


97 posted on 02/26/2018 12:29:36 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Red Badger

We don’t have a disagreement about this. Fresh water has a higher freezing point, 32 degrees, than Saltwater, 28.4. (I will try to remember this.)

It’s hard to draw conclusions about their survey because the information is incomplete. I am assuming they used hot fresh water to drill. If you hit the bottom of the shelf, all of a sudden all the water in the column (the water surrounding the drill)siphons down. Was there a standing column of water, or just enough to surround the Nozzle?


98 posted on 02/26/2018 6:24:38 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Red Badger

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3635154/posts


99 posted on 02/28/2018 10:43:45 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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Thanks Red Badger.

100 posted on 02/28/2018 10:44:43 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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