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It's not NRA money that's the problem, it's NRA voters (barf alert)
Chicago Tribune ^ | 23 feb 2018 | Eric Zorn

Posted on 02/23/2018 8:49:48 AM PST by rellimpank

With stunning poise and steely confidence, Cameron Kasky, a junior at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, confronted U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., live on CNN on Wednesday evening.

“Can you tell me right now that you will not accept a single donation from the (National Rifle Association)?” he demanded. In the arena where the town hall event was held, the crowd of some 7,000 — most of them connected to the school community that was shattered when a gunman killed 17 during a Feb. 14 rampage — stood and cheered for more than 20 seconds.

After a bit of back-and-forth, Rubio answered: “No. 1, the positions I hold on these issues of the Second Amendment I've held since the day I entered office in the city of West Miami as an elected official.

“No. 2,” he went on, “No. The answer to the question is that people buy into my agenda. … The influence of these groups comes not from money. The influence comes from the millions of people that agree with the agenda; the millions of Americans that support the NRA.”

A moment later Kasky pressed the point. “In the name of 17 people, you cannot ask the NRA to keep their money out of your campaign?” he asked. “Are you gonna be accepting money from the NRA in the future?”

Rubio’s answer, greeted with jeers: “I will always accept the help of anyone who agrees with my agenda.”

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; banglist; casky; clintonnewsnetwork; cnn; cruz; ericzorn; fakenews; guncontrol; gungrabbers; guns; nikolascruz; nra; parkview; secondamendment; zorn
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To: rellimpank

If these little thugs are the future, I’m gonna need more guns, and a boat-load of ammo.


21 posted on 02/23/2018 9:01:06 AM PST by Haiku Guy (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Olog-hai

We’re living in Eric’s head. Come on in. It’s free and there’s lots of room.....


22 posted on 02/23/2018 9:04:01 AM PST by clintonh8r (Truth is hate speech to those who hate the truth.)
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To: rellimpank

That’s right. We’re a problem for you. Just wait until November.


23 posted on 02/23/2018 9:04:52 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: niteowl77
Compare any of the anti--NRA gobblers' poise & resolve to that of the greatest American, whose 286th birthday we celebrated yesterday:

Answer all with the well demonstrated wisdom of George Washington. The most effective answer is to ridicule the utter unAmerican stupidity of the pontificating media, who hide behind these kids whom they misuse. Does one of them have an answer to George Washington's argument:

A few years earlier, at the conclusion of the War, General Washington had put his thoughts on the Common Defence into a May 2, 1783 draft to Alexander Hamilton, entitled Sentiments On A Peace Establishment:

...to prove ...the Policy and expediency of resting the protection of the Country on a respectable and well established Militia, we might not only shew the propriety ...from our peculiar local situation, but we might have recourse to the Histories of Greece and Rome in their most virtuous and Patriotic ages.... we might see, with admiration, the Freedom and Independence of Switzerland supported for Centuries, in the midst of powerful and jealous neighbors, by means of a hardy and well organized Militia. ...

It may be laid down as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every Citizen who enjoys the protection of a free Government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even of his personal services to the defence of it, and consequently that the Citizens of America (with a few legal and official exceptions) from 18 to 50 Years of Age should be borne on the Militia Rolls, provided with uniform Arms, and so far accustomed to the use of them, that the Total strength of the Country might be called forth at a Short Notice...

The following month, June 8, 1783, Washington reported to the States, in surrendering the solemn trust of his command:

The Militia of this Country must be considered as the Palladium of our security, and the first effectual resort in case of hostility...

Washington's reference to the Swiss was quite revealing. Trained, as school boys, in the safe, correct and deadly accurate use of arms, the Swiss had and have managed to maintain an armed neutrality for generations amidst their more warlike, but less war efficient neighbors. While world travelers have reported for generations that Switzerland, where every household has its own military grade weapons, has the lowest crime rate in Europe. The Swiss have also managed to preserve the diverse rights of their 22 Cantons (or States) better than any other Federation in the world.

Yet perhaps the single most important reason why Washington wanted America to adopt the Swiss system, is that it teaches the youth--in the most immediate and compelling manner--the importance of that level of personal responsibility on which all of our other institutions are based. It gives youth a sense of purpose, importance and self-worth, for which all the words expended by "Liberal" theorists, from the Creation to this day, are no substitute.

24 posted on 02/23/2018 9:06:14 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: rellimpank

Rubio shows backbone. It must be the only one and all the Rupublicans must share it.

The left, the politicians and the MSM live in their own bubble. They really don’t have a clue or keep a pulse on the majority opinion and culture of the USA. So they are perpetually confused and stupid. And you can’t fix stupid.


25 posted on 02/23/2018 9:06:51 AM PST by Tenacious 1
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To: OttawaFreeper

So this is the person with stunning poise and steely confidence?

Looking at his comments, he sounds like the typical deranged leftists who are responsible for the majority of the mass murders that take place in this country.

It is hateful leftists like him who create the environment that emboldens others like him to follow through with his violent rhetoric.


26 posted on 02/23/2018 9:08:17 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette)
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To: rellimpank
With steely self confidence the likes of Zorn are endeavoring to destroy our institutions, our civilization and our way of life ... they should be made to leave ...



See, We too can play that game .... these scums live amongst us ....

TWANLOC
27 posted on 02/23/2018 9:10:48 AM PST by IWontSubmit (2)
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To: rellimpank

What the Liberals are REALLY aiming to do is
GET RID OF ALL CONSERVATIVE VOTERS.

This writer is merely tipping off the truth.


28 posted on 02/23/2018 9:16:53 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rellimpank

“With stunning poise and steely confidence, Cameron Kasky”

The confidence came from being handed a script which was well rehearsed.

No way that kid originated those words and phrases.


29 posted on 02/23/2018 9:21:11 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: rellimpank

Ah, the left insulting large percentages of the country again. Remember, this is how the left thinks of you: you are the problem.


30 posted on 02/23/2018 9:22:30 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: rellimpank

“Those pesky voters, keeping us from implementing everything we want.”


31 posted on 02/23/2018 9:24:37 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: rellimpank
THEY WANT TO TAKE OUR GUNS AWAY BECAUSE THEY SCREWED UP!

This tragedy is a dark comedy of law enforcement dropping the ball at multiple levels from the FBI to the local sheriff.

A total and disasterous failure of Law Enforcement from top to bottom led to the slaughter of 17 people.
Competent, professional law enforcement is more than setting up Trump associates with "Gotcha" questions and ticketing speeders.

FBI: No follow up on multiple tips of a potential shooter (too busy sexting and manufacturing false evidence to screw the president?)

Local Law Enforcement: No response to multiple tips of crinminal behavior at the school

Local Sheriff: Watching the disaster unfold on a link to school security cameras with a 20 MINUTE DELAY!
(Why wasn't this flaw discovered beforehand through planning and practice to prepare for a possible live shooter event?)

School Administration: Political Correctness took prededence over student safety

School Security Officer - Armed but too cowardly to confront the shooter

It's obvious that all parties had their priorities screwed up and were concentrationg on other issues rather than their primary mission.

Competent, professional management at the FBI, Sheriff Department, local police and school administration
along with prior planning and preparation would probably have saved many lives.


32 posted on 02/23/2018 9:24:48 AM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (The only trannie I want to see is a Muncie 4 Speed M-22 Rock Crusher)
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To: rellimpank

When I become a “problem” believe my buddy, you’ll know it!


33 posted on 02/23/2018 9:26:22 AM PST by The Toll
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To: rellimpank

In other words, the Chicago Tribune is simply a part of the statist propaganda machine.


34 posted on 02/23/2018 9:27:42 AM PST by Pecos (Better the one you have with you than the one you left at home.)
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To: rellimpank

FIX YOUR CITY A$$H%LES! Then talk.


35 posted on 02/23/2018 10:00:40 AM PST by CommieCutter ("Trump is god emperor and he will win." -- some hacker)
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To: rellimpank

Eric Zorn

Eric Zorn (born January 6, 1958) is a liberal/progressive op-ed columnist and daily blogger for the Chicago Tribune, providing a left-of-center perspective on local news and local (e.g., Chicago and Cook County, state (e.g., Illinois), and national politics.


36 posted on 02/23/2018 10:01:25 AM PST by vette6387
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To: blueunicorn6

A very large number on the left - ANITIFA/BAMN/BLM/SJWs - want us simply dead.
They want and openly advocate for killing those whom they deem unworthy to live.


37 posted on 02/23/2018 10:07:48 AM PST by No_More_Harkin
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To: rellimpank
Hmmm, okay so then it's fair to say that it's not the democrat party that's the problem, it's democrat voters? No that's apple to oranges, neither the NRA or NRA voters are the problem while both the democrat party and democrat voters are the problem.
38 posted on 02/23/2018 10:18:04 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: No_More_Harkin

And they wonder why we keep buying guns...


39 posted on 02/23/2018 10:22:03 AM PST by Haiku Guy (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Between the Scalise shooting and the train wreck, even for our elected officials, what do we honestly think these people want for us?
40 posted on 02/23/2018 10:26:30 AM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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