“do something” means do something that won’t work. They yell and scream about guns, but never get to the heart of the problem: why does the guy’s “value system” allow him to shoot up innocents? (50 years of godless liberalism.)
We must begin by rooting out and destroying all the left wing BS that pervades the American culture. So long as the leftist BS exists there will be problems
The root cause of the school shootings was the school its self. That is barely being mentioned on Fox. One suspects those skirting the line on exposing that truth are controlled.
It’s time to change the debate. School shootings are not about guns - those are the means, not the cause. The cause is psychotropic drugs. Talking about gun control when we need to be talking about mental illness and psychiatric drugs is just giving into the false Rat narrative.
“Something” includes two choices:
1. Remove “gun free” status and allow parents and staff to CC on campus if they have a CC permit
2. Keep them gun free, but put up full protections at all entrances like you have at other gun free zones. e.g. Courthouses, airports and prisons.
And if you choose option two, you have effectively disarmed everyone, meaning you are fully and LEGALLY responsible for their safety. i.e. expect to get seriously sued by the survivors and families if a shooter DOES get in.
It’s simple really. And truth be told, this will massively deter shooters. It’s like the old walled cities. When under attack, their function was to repel said attack. But their practical and REAL function was to deter anyone from attacking. Same thing here. Otherwise we would have shoot outs with security checkpoint guards at airports and courthouses. We don’t.
Nothing will get done.
Liberals want a political issue and conservatives don’t want to set a dangerous precedent.
After passions have cooled, people will live as they always have, with the status quo.
“It pits rights against duties. It pits individualism against communitarianism.”
Individualism against COMMUNISM.
Say it, Ben.
Meanwhile, over at Colt, they are getting lots of overtime.
Create a National Firearms Safety Board to fully investigate each case in full context and hold accountable those in authority who failed at their jobs. That’s like we do with plane crashes and the NTSB, which has made flying much safer than it used to be.
I’m “borrowing” (stealing) this from FR member geeneyes over on another thread.
I hope I’m forgiven.
“..Does a bump stock CAUSE someone to murder? Can a bump stock act on it’s own? No - it’s ridiculous
Does a gun CAUSE someone to murder? Can a gun act on it’s own? No it’s ridiculous
When a truck drives into a crowd, or a truck bomb goes off, do we ever blame the Truck and suggest that Trucks should be outlawed? No that would be ridiculous.
Does the LSM ever ask anything about a the drug use of a shooter who massacres people? Do they ever seriously investigate why it happened? Will they investigate why the FBI really ignored this kid?
Shouldn’t any action taken address the CAUSE of the problem?
If such drugs are going to continue to be used, and we don’t know who will be impacted, shouldn’t we take real action, like eliminating gun free zones which are just the next massacre waiting to happen?
How about hardening these “soft” targets with security guards and effective security screening/restriction of access?
Is it not suspicious that we have these shootings, and the cause is never really explored? The shooter winds up dead or cops a plea, so there is not a thorough investigation and records are never really available to the public?
Does the Government/gun grabbers really want to know the cause of the problem? Do they want a solution or would they rather have kids continue to be killed so that they can disarm law abiding citizens?
In the 50’s we had kids driving to school with guns in gun racks in their pickups. We did NOT have all these massacres. Why is that? Why is no one trying figure that out?...”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTmfwklFM-M
Where the politicos are right now in the debate.
From Blazing Saddles 1974—21 seconds long.
I can’t believe David French made a cogent point.
Since the liberals have rendered it almost impossible to forcibly institutionalize someone for aberrant mental behavior, there is frequently no record.
Since the Government apparently failed again, like in Texas to do their duty, there is no record.
The GRVO isn’t a bad idea. There must be protections for the person receiving the restraining order, such as a defined time to review and a probationary period after which, if certain criteria are met, full rights are restored.
But in essence, it’s a very good idea.
A year or two ago, my son was acting out a bit and having some emotional issues. I had decided that if it got any worse, removing any access to firearms was in order.
It turned out that his was due to a specific medical issue which was finally diagnosed a week or two later, so the issue went away as his treatment began. The physical pain he was in had a known side effect of emotional distress.
Get rid of the public school Gun-Free zones. Allow the teachers (trained) to conceal carry. Even if they do not have the gun with them, the “threat” that they POSSIBLY are armed will stop most cowards. This is what people MISS with CC, it isn’t that a person has a gun and is waiting for you to attack, it is that there MIGHT be a gun there ready to stop you. It is the THREAT that will stop this nonsense. (Go find another gun-free zone, like a hospital, to attack! /s).
I wonder who paid for those fancy buses??????
If they actually want to do something constructive, instead of purely “feel good”, they they need to march on Broward County and have them revoke the law that does not allow the records of minors to be entered into the criminal background check database.
That is the real culprit in the school shooting.
My suggestions are, (1) make it a go-to-prison offense to threaten mass-killing on a website or in any other way, (2) all law enforcement agencies must communicate, but local authorities have the primary responsibility for translating evidence into apprehensions, (3) be aware that a group of people gathered together is always a potential mass-killing target.
No we don’t.
It would be fun to be on the team tasked with removing the guns from those that family members deem “dangerous”.